My first experience trying vivaldi, coming from firefox.
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after importing bookmarks and opening them in new window, vivaldi crashed. then I start it again, it has opened with 301 tabs instead of 731 and looked like this:
dissapointment
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@Gwen-Dragon Hi, yes, I clicked on Imported Bookmarks and chose Open in New Window.
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There is no point opening so many tabs, but Vivaldi can handle large numbers of tabs. Tab-stacking or tiling, sessions, and multiple windows can help with keeping the Tab Bar usable. Read about these topics in help (F1).
Welcome to the Community. Here are a few links for your bookmarks that you may find useful:
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@Pesala you're probably right, there is no point, but so far horizontal tab scrolling fits me better, I just didn't know vivaldi doesn't support it and there goes my dissapointment mainly, but nevermind, thank you anyway.
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@elfant you can also manage tabs on window panel, works like tree tabs in firefox.
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@elfant Chromium-based browsers open a new process (or more) for every tab, unlike Firefox, which subsumes them all under one (potentially overloaded) process.
When you open hundreds of tabs in a Chromium-based browser, you open hundreds of new processes, with all of the associated memory consumption, processor cycles, etc.
In my view, hundreds of tabs is an insane way to operate (the human mind cannot track that many subjects at once), but that said, with hibernation, etc., a Chromium-based browser like Vivaldi can handle a couple of hundred (still insane) at once without difficulty, if you have the RAM to support it.
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Do you have the hardware to achieve the opening of those tabs all at once?
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You could keep those number open if they were opened in groups of 5/10 (maybe more), but leaving some time to the browser/computer to seatle down the process.
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If you expected V to handle it, where is the idea come from?
Can FireFox or Chrome do it?
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Welcome to our community.Yes, new in Vivaldi in the past also happened to me to click on the bookmark folder with the command "Open"
In general it makes no sense to have more than 20, OK, 30 tabs open, it only slows down the system unnecessarily. With the Speed ββDial and Bookmark folders at the distance of a click you can open the pages in a moment and even put them in mosaic, stacking the tabs, while chatting on the social network in the Webpanel, which is much more productive than having 500 tabs open at the same time. -
@Catweazle Yes, 65% of users open fifty tabs or fewer, but 15% open 100 tabs or more. It is just my personal view, but I cannot imagine working with that many tabs even if the browser did not slow down at all.
- Twenty is plenty
- Thirty is dirty
- Forty is naughty
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@elfant Try vertical tabbar instead, go to Settings > Tab > Tab bar position > Pick Left/Right. Horizontal tabbar layout doesn't work well with too many tabs anyway, vertical tabbar can display about 25 tabs at once.
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@dude99 said in My first experience trying vivaldi, coming from firefox.:
@elfant Try vertical tabbar instead, go to Settings > Tab > Tab bar position > Pick Left/Right. Horizontal tabbar layout doesn't work well with too many tabs anyway, vertical tabbar can display about 25 tabs at once.
I have the tabs vertically, but not to have many tabs open, but because of the format of most pages, thus saving space to view them, subtracting space from the top edge of the browser.
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@elfant Don't sweat the naysaying, Vivaldi can handle hundreds of tabs if your hardware can. I rarely have less than 50 tabs open at once. When doing research it's not uncommon for me to wind up with a half dozen to a couple dozen tab stacks each with 50-200 tabs in them. Granted, I usually don't open 300 in one command, but this thread made me curious enough to test it.
I saved off my 178 tabs into a session to reopen them after the test, closed them all, then found a bookmarks folder with a few hundred bookmarks in it (the folder containing unstacked bookmarks for sorting) and opened them all at once. I have my preferences set such that anytime I open more than 1 bookmark I have to confirm it, so it pops up a dialog letting me know how many are going to be opened. It was 305, therefore I ended up with 306 tabs in total (including the tab I had when opening the bookmarks). It took, oh, I didn't time it, but maybe a minute, perhaps less, perhaps a little more, before the browser became snappy & responsive like normal.
A little side note before the results, I don't really notice much if any performance degradation that I would attribute to having a lot of tabs open. Typically, when I notice the browser behaving sluggish, there is one tab, or a handful of tabs from the same domain, that if I close them the browser begins to behave as expected regardless of how many tabs remain open. Often what is happening my blocker is preventing some site horribly insistent upon tracking people, and when they can't hit their tracking URL, there are rapid fire net requests that number in the tens or hundreds of thousands in just a few minutes. That's typically what makes my browser slow down or become unresponsive -- and it would occur if it was the only tab open. One might struggle to run a thousand or two tabs on a medium powered laptop type device, but I have no problem on my system and Vivaldi makes managing them so much easier than in other browsers.
Here are the results from my admittedly limited testing.
- So, I didn't close or restart the browser after closing out the tabs I was working with before starting this test. I also had many other applications running at the same time, a few Excel sheets, a few Word docs, several Atom editors, and even a VLC video playing.
- After closing nearly 200 tabs I selected 305 bookmarks, right-clicked and choose to open them in new background tabs.
- I got the popup dialog for me to confirm the action, confirmed it, and it started creating the tabs and loading the pages.
- After about 1 minute (I didn't think to time it) the browser had returned to it's normal responsiveness and no longer exhibited any noticeable slowdown of the UI.
- I pulled up Task Manager and on the Processes tab I sorted descending by the Memory column. This combines all the separate vivaldi.exe processes into one item with their resource usage combined to display as it is seen in the screenshots below.
Here are two results that show the memory consumption of these tabs.
(1) After the browser became responsive I watched the memory use by Vivaldi to see if it was continuing to rise. On the contrary, it was falling, and continued to fall after this screenshot by a few hundred megs before I started on the next part of the test. Here you can see it's consuming about 8.5 GB of RAM.
(2) I the hibernated all by a few of the tabs and waited for the memory consumption to stablize and took another screenshot. This time, about 1.7 GB of RAM were being used.
For anyone who finds this kind of workflow advantageous and productive, I would therefor recommend using some kind of extension or mod that can be used to manage your tabs hibernation state if you are running with limited RAM. As you can see from my screenshots, even at the max, I'm barely using a quarter of my available RAM, so I don't really worry about hibernating them. But there is an extension by someone in the Modifications category of this forum that has created an AutoHibernate extension for Vivaldi. You can either have it hibernate them after a certain time of inactivity, or manually by clicking the extension.
Here it is, the Tab Auto-Discard extension.
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