Multi-row / multi-columns for Tabs



  • One important reason for the use of the Opera has been able to use multiple columns for tabs. Now go down the tab off the screen - it is not convenient to pass on new tabs, and disappear "Garbage" and "New Tab". I use "Tabs on right side". Do you plan to emergence of such an important opportunity?



  • You can achieve this with some custom CSS.

    See this post.



  • Yes, I tryed some variants like this earlier.
    But:
    1. In 2-3 columns all tabs goes like "left, center, right, only after this - next row and etc" - like inline block, not like in Opera - from top to bottom in first column, and after next column from top to bottom.
    2. With regular snapshots of Vivaldi - its hard to changing CSS each time. I need this option INTO Vivaldi, not like MOD.
    Thank you



  • If this feature is something you cannot live without in a web browser, then custom CSS is the only solution in Vivaldi for the moment. To my knowledge, tab columns isn't a heavily requested feature, and it's likely that the devs will get around to implementing more popular features and polishing existing features before they get around to less popular features like this one. That's not to say it will never be added, but it's not there presently, and it might be a long while before it is. If waiting for the devs to implement the feature and using CSS in the mean time is too much effort for you, then just keep using your preferred browser until the feature is added.

    You're welcome.



  • .. ok… is antything changed since then? Multirow tabs still not available?

    Custom CSS can do mutli columns tabs or mutlirow as well? If so can you describe how to do it?



  • i like much that feature in o12 i hope see it in Vivaldi too soon



  • I like how customization topic is growing :D
    Would be nice in future to have a section for load these user customization scripts on fly ^^



  • i like much that feature in o12 i hope see it in Vivaldi too soon

    Me too! The multi column vertical tabs is one of the main reason I still use Opera v12.

    Multiple tab columns is the last missing bit for me to switch to Vivaldi completly. Currently the handling of a lot of tabs (where multiple columns/rows would kick in) is not there yet compared to what Opera v12 managed to do.

    Vivaldi starts scrolling the tab area if middle mouse button is used to close tabs.
    Tabs scroll up for no reason if you leave fullscreen mode etc.. I opened tickets for these, of course! o)



  • Read a lot. Learned nothing.
    If CSS is the way to go, would someone PLEASE explain how to do it or give some clues.
    Do I have to edit 216722 B sized unformatted text file to achieve it?
    What part of it?
    My text editor, Kate, even can't open common.css in edit mode, says:"The longest of those lines was 216772 characters long" and it is "longer than the Line Length Limit".
    –-
    Another solution would be to sell some home appliances and buy 32" monitor.
    Any recommendations?


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    @DailViv:

    Any recommendations?

    • Open fewer tabs. Twenty is plenty: (57% of users open 20 or fewer, 70% open 30 tabs or fewer).
    • Use sessions
    • Use tab stacks
    • Open new windows for new projects

    It's definitely not worth the effort of learning how to edit CSS. Tab rows/columns may come one day, but you might be waiting for a long time. Maybe there are extensions that can help, but I haven't tried them as I only ever open a few tabs. My biggest session is just seven tabs.



  • +1 for multirow tabs
    And I would like additional options for vertical tabs (placed right/left):

    • multicolumns (two at least)
    • list move "+" button for new tab to the top (don't see any option to move it vertically, or to "first" position)
    • set size of thumbnail and favicons
    • do not colapse pinned tabs
    • wider panel (looks like it's restrictd to some width)
    • customize color and font of tabs in background - i really don't like that tab header use the "background" color but not the "accent" color - so when i want some darker all becomes darker (even options backgroud!!!)


  • +100 from me. I don't understand why creators of moderns browsers think that ultra thin tabs without text (when there are more than 30 tabs) are handy to use. Scrollable tabs are not much better either. Multirow tabs is an essential feature of a browser. And according to this topic not so few users want it.

    I also double this request: "do not colapse pinned tabs"


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    @svsh said in Multi-row / multi-columns for Tabs:

    I don't understand why creators of modern browsers think that ultra thin tabs without text (when there are more than 30 tabs) are handy to use.

    I don't understand why users of modern browsers think that opening more then 30 tabs in one window is handy to use, unless they make use of tab-stacking.

    I searched the Feature Requests thread topic, but could not find this feature request there at all. Tree Style Tabs and Tab Scrolling like Firefox have been requested. I am sure there are a few requests in older threads. This one for 1.11 has just 5 votes, so I think it is less popular than you imagine.


  • Moderator

    @svsh If you think a feature is useful and missing in Vivaldi, please make a request.


    How to make a feature request for Vivaldi
    If you think your problem can be solved by a missing feature, please add a request at https://forum.vivaldi.net/category/48/features-requests in the corresponding thread for your browser version.
    Add one line in bold as a short title for the feature and 2-3 lines to describe the wanted feature.




  • @pesala said in Multi-row / multi-columns for Tabs:

    I don't understand why users of modern browsers think that opening more then 30 tabs in one window is handy to use, unless they make use of tab-stacking.

    Don't assume everyone works the way you do. Even if 30 tabs were enough, 30 tabs in one row just don't work; you can't tell which is which. I vastly prefer 3 rows with 10 tabs each to a single row of 30. And 30 are not always enough either.

    I switched from Opera 12 to Firefox, using the highly popular extension Tab Mix Plus (TMP) in order to maintain support for proper tab management - including multi-row tabs. Ever since Firefox dropped support for the old extensions API with Firefox 57, the users of TMP have been discussing how to bring it back and have been voting for the most essential features that should be implemented first for the new version of TMP as a Firefox WebExtension. The respective forum thread shows that multi-row tabs are actually one of the most frequently requested features if not the most frequently requested feature. Power users rely on it more than you think.



  • @djain said in Multi-row / multi-columns for Tabs:

    Don't assume everyone works the way you do. Even if 30 tabs were enough, 30 tabs in one row just don't work; you can't tell which is which.

    I often have 100 ~ 150 tabs open without tab groups and have no trouble telling them apart. There is still structure in it.

    In Opera 12 the mouse scroll dialog showed a textual list of tabs instead of graphical. This scaled really well to high number of tabs. You could get away with being a bit less organised :)

    Personally I dislike multi row tabs as 15 rows of 10 tabs will fill up my entire screen. Though I can imagine that some people might want it.



  • @caine said in Multi-row / multi-columns for Tabs:

    @djain said in Multi-row / multi-columns for Tabs:

    Don't assume everyone works the way you do. Even if 30 tabs were enough, 30 tabs in one row just don't work; you can't tell which is which.

    I often have 100 ~ 150 tabs open without tab groups and have no trouble telling them apart. There is still structure in it.

    In Opera 12 the mouse scroll dialog showed a textual list of tabs instead of graphical. This scaled really well to high number of tabs. You could get away with being a bit less organised :)

    Personally I dislike multi row tabs as 15 rows of 10 tabs will fill up my entire screen. Though I can imagine that some people might want it.

    "some" == a lot. And you can combine it with a "hide tab rows" feature, or even switch to full screen, if the vertical screen estate becomes limited. I for one, commonly use between 100 and 200 tabs, without a problem (when using a multi-row capable web browser such as the old Opera 12.x presto or the Palemoon with TabMixPlus, that is). Let's not look for lame excused to NOT bring this much needed feature into Vivaldi...


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    @smihaila said

    "some" == a lot.

    Or, to be precise, 3 votes after 1 month for this feature request: Multiple Row Tabs, which puts it on page 22 of 34 in the Feature Request thread when sorted by number of votes.

    In my opinion, stacking tabs is a better way to handle lots of tabs. Depending on display size and UI Zoom, 10-20 tabs can fit in a stack, so with ten stacks you don't need more than one row.


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    Another way to manage large numbers of tabs is by using Quick Commands. Type in a word to filter the list to a manageable size if you open 100s of tabs.)

    0_1522517462048_Quick Commands tab List.png


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