Why you should replace Windows 7 with Linux


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    @Joey21 In every case, what has broken Linux for me has been an update. Once an update makes a build unbootable, I have not figured out how to roll it back to a bootable state.



  • @Ayespy - I've done that too. Frustrating. Seems as though there should be a CLI command to reset everything to "like new" (default) from the recovery menu. When the OS failed it is because I've tinkered with the Linux OS 'til I broke it.

    I'll agree with others' comments. The average person (perhaps Americans mostly?) seems to be adverse to change or intellectually lazy. Rather than learn a tiny bit to avoid reoccurring computer issues such as viruses - they would rather beg people like me to fix it for them or pay me pizza money to repair their mistakes.

    I don't work on computers these days b/c along the way the value of my spare time exceeded the value of the money people wanted to pay me. I still do favors of course. When someone has a repeating problem either it is time to learn what not to do to keep Win10 alive or its time to listen to my OS lecture. I steer people towards Linux, Apple and Chromebooks these days. Win10 is okay and we have it on our family computer (dual booting) for a few games but I consider it delicate and always subject to attack.

    Our kids have used Mint Linux (KDE) from the start. Today they use all the OSs. They use open-source software for school work and personal projects. We want them to be able to be productive with computers and software in general - and not be the type of person who struggles when they need to use a different OS or browser or office suite.

    Until the average person is more like our kids, Windows will likely remain at the top of the stack for no reason other than familiarity and the default OS that came on a new computer. I prefer "better tools" such as Vivaldi or Linux.

    I think Win7 was the pinnacle of the Windows OS series so far. While Win10 might be better under the hood (faster and more secure than Win7), I see the rest of the OS as necessarily complicated. Too many layers for settings. The OS seems to get in the way of just getting things done.



  • @Ayespy said in Why you should replace Windows 7 with Linux:

    @Joey21 In every case, what has broken Linux for me has been an update. Once an update makes a build unbootable, I have not figured out how to roll it back to a bootable state.

    Linux Mint has a program called Timeshift for this issue. It can be set up to perform timed back-ups, or you can manually create a system snapshot before you try to install something.


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    @JohnConnorBear Perhaps there's "laziness," and then there's "laziness."

    A carpenter who also practices as a blacksmith might consider a carpenter who simply buys a new hammer or screwdriver, or maybe even never replaces the handles - but simply buys new ones when they break or wear out, as being "lazy." Because, after all, everyone should have the skill and the will to forge, repair, and refashion their own tools.

    Most users of tools, however, do not expect to forge them or repair them.



  • Linux is cool - no question. But a lot of work to keep it up to date. If you are firm with your PC - try it. If you are "only a user", Windows is easier!

    Btw: Win 10 is current not 7!


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    @JohnConnorBear Then people who don't learn languages are also "lazy."

    I think a degree of discomfort with the unfamiliar is a greater or lesser part of every human's nature. I'm not sure it equates to laziness.


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    @JohnConnorBear , today I had an update on Windows 10, this in the W7 would have meant giving me my head against the keyboard and making myself a coffee and showering afterwards, while Windows is updating. In Windows 10 it was a procession like other times and does not take more than 2-3 minutes. So fast it wasn't even the Kubuntu I used.
    For me an OS is a tool and there is very little time that I enjoy another UI than that of the browser, therefore it is quite indifferent what OS is under the window of Vivaldi or UR, which is Windows or Linux, what I want is that it works without having to worry about this.
    Today all OSes are very valid and the differences are only personal preferences, none of them cover all needs and all have their pros and cons.
    The only advantage I see on Linux is the variety that there is to suit any use and personal tastes, but none of them have the ease and convenience of use that Windows has, nor the availability of all kinds of applications even in the scope of OpenSource that Windows has.




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    @JohnConnorBear , that Windows by default has a habit of tuteling the user is nothing new, but it also allows to disable this custom (and telemetrics), which I usually do first on a new PC.
    With this he will become an obedient lamb, fast and stable like a rock, without further headaches.
    For me the comfort zone, as I said before, is the browser I use in 99% of the time on the PC, and this is the same on Windows, as on Linux.



  • @JohnConnorBear As I said: Linux has more options to make your "own thing". But for "simple users" Windows is easier. I tried both an thats my resรผmee.



  • @JohnConnorBear Coincidentally I just had to fix a botched Windows update to 2004... First it screwed up the update, which then reverted and screwed up the existing installation. Then I wasted a couple of hours a day for two weeks trying to fix the broken Windows Update system. I tried every trick I knew and every tip I could find online. Of course, none of the error messages or Microsoft tools/pages were helpful at all. Eventually I think I deleted something which broke Windows completely - making it revert to a clean Windows install (wiping all program files and settings) and in French not English (because I bought the PC in France ten years ago).

    Luckily I made a full backup before the first update so I've been able to get back all the software and settings (after another wasted week or two).

    I am always amazed just how crap Microsoft software can behave - especially considering the billions of beta-testers they have! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Edit: I agree with people that Linux package management (now*) works flawlessly for everything installed on the system. Microsoft's problem is that they a) only want that kind of thing to work with stuff they control or can sell you and b) they're crap at implementing the many, many such things they've tried (Games for Windows Live, anyone?).

    (*) certainly wasn't always the case back in the day

    If only Lubuntu hadn't dropped 32-bit support right after I installed it on my ancient netbook... ๐Ÿ˜ž
    Now I have to get out of my comfort zone and waste yet more weeks trying out the handful of alternatives I eventually downloaded (thanks to those who gave suggestions in whatever thread that was!). I'll get that netbook updated one day - if only I wasn't so lazy. ๐Ÿ˜‰



  • @Koolio I switched from Windows years ago and found Kubuntu the best alternative to Windows. The KDE variants of Debian work the best.



  • @JohnConnorBear That's one of the distros I downloaded (ironically, all of them stored on the affected Windows machine...).


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