Why you should replace Windows 7 with Linux


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    @britur I have tried a few of the more "from-Windows-noob-friendly" Linux systems myself, and found that Mint suited me the best among them. I'm also a senior who's no true tech geek (can't code, read registry, etc. tho we were early adopters of home computing in the mid-70's, and I'm not afraid to tinker), and Mint was not a serious shock to my system. I keep it dual-booted on an old 32-bit box for testing Vivaldi. If you're at all comfortable with personal computing on the whole, Mint should not be a real challenge for you.



  • @Ayespy Many thanks. Could probably manage it. But want to make a decision based on the relarive hassles and benefits between windows10 and Linux mint.
    That is my dilemma and having the great age I have, 75 no less, I have certain tasks/missions I must accomplish before this world and I part company. Anything else you hink I should consider? I try nowadays to devils advicate myself very rigorosly!!!



  • @Catweazle Many thanks. You mention 2 linux options. Mint and Distru. Is Mint the best preferred option?
    Using the pen drive dual boot alternative sounds like a good first step. Is that easy or difficult to set up?
    At the moment trying to back up my system under Windows 7 BU, but not working says not enough space. Reformatted the USB HD so have approx 3.2 TB, surely that should be enough for creating a system image.
    Truly hope that by my putting these questions up here that I am not abusing the goodwill of this fantastic community. Please let me know one way or the other!
    Best Brian and thanks to all.


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    @britur , I am somewhat younger, although not so much (67). I think the best option is to use both OS, so you have the advantages of both.


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    @britur Well, 67 this year myself. Given my druthers, I'd probably go with Win10 if $$ is not an issue - strictly for the familiarity. And to enhance the familiarity further, I run ALL of my Win10 installs (7 of them) with OpenShell, because it makes the user interface look like Win7. I hate the "Metro" (that's the real name of it) appearance of the Win10 menu and store apps.

    The reason I chose Mint to test in is it does not feel really foreign after running Windows. It's rather intuitive. I don't look up help topics on how to manage it, I just do what seems right, and it works. If one does not want to lay out the shekels for Win10, well, then, Mint is free, and it's fast, and pretty, and secure.

    I always found Win10 was actually a better manger of resources than Win7, and actually runs better on the same hardware. Faster. Smoother. Mint is as nimble as Win10, or possbily moreso.

    So that's all I can tell you about it off the top of my head, and I hope your decision comes fairly easily.


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    Currently with Win10 I am also quite happy, It is also not a big problem to configure it to have a UI similar to W7, in fact, I now have the same desktop in 10 that I had before in 7, differences are only in the layout of some Configuration menus.
    In Linux I had previously with Kubuntu very good experiences. As Mint also has an elegant UI and a handling quite intuitive and similar to the Windows, which therefore does not represent a problem for a beginner in Linux either


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    @britur Also, if you're going to be running a bunch of Microsoft apps, like MSOffice, then Windows. I personally avoid MS apps like the plague. That's just me.



  • @Catweazle and @Ayespy Moderator and Ambassador (wow) and 75 year determined Dummy.
    Thank you both so much, feel I'm in very good hands with a Moderator and Ambassador no less. Am almost at the decision-making point.
    From what you've said I understand first good step is a PenDrive with Linux Mint and Windows 10. Check these out and then either choose one to install on my Desktop or both in Dual Boot Mode.

    Have been experimenting with Windows BU and creating a System Image. Tried several times, and in all cases no success, not enough space according to Microsoft. They state I think I would need 4 TB of space.

    So I think before proceeding I will buy another USB with 5 to 10 TB space first. Don't think too expensive here in Sweden.
    Just checked, screenshot from Snagit (beautiful programme) but unfortunately can't copy the images as normal (could it be as not possible to paste into Vivaldi??!!

    GDrive 6 TB 2,379 Kr Dollars 250
    WD MyPassport 5 TB 1,790 Kr Dollars 185

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    The Windows 10 upgrade is again free so that is not a cost I have to consider. At least according to "How to Geek" link enclosed. They're usually pretty reliable.

    https://www.howtogeek.com/509087/how-to-upgrade-from-windows-7-to-windows-10-for-free/

    How big does the PenDrive have to be for the dual operating systems?
    If I opt for Linux Mint will I be able to run all Windows programmes currently installed under Windows 7?

    Appreciate so much your generous assistance, with my non-tech skills I would really like to do something very good for Vivaldi here in Europe as very few people seem to know about it. The idea I have is if we set up in the forum a challenge to your users to provide a posting, of maybe not more than 500 words, where users try to give a non-technical overview of Vivaldi, how they use it, and its , customisable functionality. I would then undertake to publish these on my web site. Currently being restructured, but I think it would be perfect for spreading the good word about Vivaldi, you guys, ad this community. The risk is you might get overwhelmed!!!!
    What do you think? We could even have a prize of a bottle of champagne which would be pleased to fund as a symbolic gesture of my sincere goodwill for what you are doing.
    Or if you have any alternatives, which you think would be better or preferable, please don't be shy!!!!



  • If you have Windows 10 installed on the computer already, I would leave it for now.
    In my opinion the simplest solution is to install the live version of your chosen Linux distribution on the USB stick.
    This way you can either boot into the existing OS or the Linux OS on the USB stick.
    I found the following link after a short search Linux Mint Live, assuming you have chosen Linux Mint.
    If you leave the hard drive unmounted this is a zero risk way of becoming familiar with Linux.
    It looks like I'm just a young fella at only 57 😉 but I started using Linux nearly 30 years ago and I am so glad I did.👍



  • @britur
    Hi, you will get problems to start Windows 10 from external device, MS does not like it.
    For testing leave your system as is and use a good USB stick for Linux.
    There is nothing to install only copy a Linux ISO file to a bootable USB stick.
    There are several tools doing this.
    You have to choice the boot device from BIOS but for testing it is OK.
    128 GB is more than enough for a full Linux install for the USB stick 8 GB.
    You can use the Windows partition as storage for Linux, too.

    Cheers, mib
    EDIT: buzzb was faster. party


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    @britur , a 10Tb pendrive is not needed for a Linux distro 🙂 , they fit comfortably in one of 1 Gb. That is, if you have a pendrive from where you want to run Linux, one of 8-10 Gb is enough, to also have room for possible files , the SO as such, does not reach 1 Gb.



  • @Catweazle
    Hi, for testing it is OK but I have a 43 GB root partition and only 13 GB free space or you want to copy a Blue-Ray disk wich is 25 GB and so forth.
    SSD are cheap now.

    CHeers, mib


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    @mib2berlin , the investment in an SSD is of course recommended, the speed difference with an HDD is abysmal.
    Running Linux on a pendrive to test it, of course, is the recommended option, to having a "portable" Linux, a pendrive with more capacity is naturally needed to also be able to save the files created in it. If they are office files, with 8-10 Gb is enough, to images something else.But the first line pendrive was for the test and for the installation of a distro, for this you don't need a pendrive with a lot of capacity, with one where the distro fits, it will be enough. Mint fits comfortably on a 750 Mb CD, to distribute it as a life CD or give it to a friend.
    On my previous PC with Win7 I had Kubuntu in dual boot on a 25 Gb partition, which was enough. It depends naturally on the use that is given, if it is needed for graphic design and 3D rendering, it is logical that more is needed, but for navigation and office it is more than enough.



  • @Catweazle Nearly there. After extensive testing, have discoered if Microsoft backup is ri be believe that a 5 TB USB hd is too small. So have ordered a USB 8 TB drive, with double USB 3.0 ports at reasonable price of 1,869 Kr nearly same as 5 TB. Will then test this, and then full speed ahead with BU and Linux options.

    Take the liberty if asking one questio here.

    When I have bookmatks in speed dialler bookmarks and down the left hand side, can I i multiple select 2 or more BMs to move thgem elsewhere in my system, would be very useful. But have not succeeded.
    Any ideas anyone??



  • @britur use either the bookmarks manager or the bookmarks panel and you can definitely multi select and move. I'm not at my desk to confirm but I don't think it's possible to create selections within the speed dial itself. That's a special kind of start page, with different functionality as it core design than managing bookmarks. So the focus is on optimizing that UX, even if to your detriment of managing them as bookmarks.



  • @bonetone Thanks v. much.
    If I can't multi-select in Speed dialler. great shame, as I must then use areas outside SpeedDialler as multi-selection is very important for me. Unless there is some reasonable workaround!
    Will try to see how it works there.



  • @britur I guess I don't understand how using the bookmarks manager or the bookmarks panel is not a reasonable workaround for moving multiple speed dial bookmarks in one action. I do a lot of other tasks with respect to managing the speed dial in both of those tools, it's actually better in my opinion than using the speed dial. It's certainly easier to move speed dial bookmarks down multiple folders. Or to move multiple speed dial bookmarks that are stored in different folders into a common folder. These are scenarios that just aren't possible in a speed dial UI, enabling multiselect would still not enable these use cases that I have actually done. And those are just use cases involving a move action. There are still more than no Speed Dial could support that are easy in either the manager or panel.



  • @bonetone Thanks v. much. Could it be an idea if exrensive reorgaisation of BMs is necssary to move them out of Speed Dialer to Bookmark Manager, reorganise there, when completed move back to Speed Dialler.
    Does that make sense?


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    @britur Speed Dial entries are merely bookmarks. They are already within and editable within the panel and/or the bookmark manager. No need to move them anywhere.



  • @britur said in Why you should replace Windows 7 with Linux:

    @bonetone Thanks v. much. Could it be an idea if exrensive reorgaisation of BMs is necssary to move them out of Speed Dialer to Bookmark Manager, reorganise there, when completed move back to Speed Dialler.
    Does that make sense?

    Um, no, it doesn't really make sense. They don't get removed from the speed dial unless you move them out of the folders that have been marked as a speed dial. Speed dials are just a folder in your bookmarks that have the speed dial attribute enabled, by checking the box labeled speed dial. I have several folders that are speed dials, and each one is listed in the start page navigation (where you see speed dial, bookmarks, history). The bookmarks panel and manager are just a better interface for managing their organization, the speed dial is just a unique view into a select set of folders. That view is really nice to have in a new tab for accessing commonly used bookmarks


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