Bookmark organizing: Any good strategies until this is FIXED?



  • The only thing that keeps me from using Vivaldi browser is the fact that there is no good way to manipulate bookmarks (of which I have a ton) The Firefox implementation works well: I can drag and drop bookmarks at will. Sadly there is no good way that I have found to do this in a fairly quick and painless manner

    How do you folks handle it? Do you know of an extension perhaps that will for instance expand the bookmark folders and allow easy manipulation of bookmarks?

    DEVS - please fix this. There are a good number of people that have posted in this forum that cannot adopt this browser because of this issue.

    Thanks
    Rick


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    @rgrun The bookmark panel works painlessly for me. Do you use it?



  • What? Managing bookmarks in Vivaldi is so much better than Firefox. Before the beta of Vivaldi Android was released I used Firefox on my phone so I could sync my bookmarks to my workstation. Rather than deal with the bookmarks in Firefox, I would always import them into Vivaldi and sort them there.

    One thing that is great is being able to see the folder tree in two different panes of the window. You can do this in at least 2 different ways. One is to open 2 tabs and navigate to the bookmarks, then tile the two tabs - vertically seems to make the most sense but everybody works differently so you could tile horizontally if you prefer.

    My preferred way of displaying the bookmarks folder tree in two panes is to open a tab and navigate to the bookmarks, and then open the bookmarks panel. The tab and the panel have different layouts to display the bookmarks tree, however I have modified my bookmarks view in a tab to hide the nickname and description fields. I've set the bookmarks panel to have a "separate width", meaning it's width is managed independently from all other panels. So it's easy, since I hid those two columns, for me to see the complete title and URL of all my bookmarks.

    The difference between using two tabs and a tab & panel is that the two tabs will update to have the same view. That is, if you expand a folder in one tab, when you make a change in the other tab that folder will expand as well (same with closing folders). Using a tab & panel, the views can be managed independently - you can have different folders expanded in each and they won't influence each other. This is great when organizing - I'll open the folders that have new bookmarks to be sorted in the tab, and the panel will have the target folders expanded. This means less scrolling to get to my targets.

    I've got nearly 100,000 unique bookmarks, during a one deduplication effort I had well over 100,000 total bookmarks. For deduplication I use the extension called [Bookmarks clean up][ext], it's reliable and very useful. If you need a little guidance using it, let me know.

    If you don't know how to open your bookmarks in a tab or the panel, let me know as well. But bookmark management in Vivaldi is superior to Firefox, Chrome & Edge.



  • @bonetone Thanks! I can probably make that work (tiled panels) I found the bookmarks page + the panel was a bit cumbersome for more than moving a couple of bookmarks



  • @Ayespy I found it difficult for anything more than moving one or two items around


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    @rgrun And what should be made better? Please explain what can not be done by you.
    Telling us Firefox does it the better is not really explanatory.



  • @rgrun said in Bookmark organizing: Any good strategies until this is FIXED?:

    @bonetone Thanks! I can probably make that work (tiled panels) I found the bookmarks page + the panel was a bit cumbersome for more than moving a couple of bookmarks

    Really? I've moved literally tens of thousands of bookmarks around that way. I could make a demo video for you if needed. I could probably get it done this weekend. It takes a fair amount of time to do: setting up the environment & demo data, recording my desktop with narration and publishing that on the web. Before I do all that, could you clarify your issue?

    Provide more details about what you're doing, and describe exactly what it is that's slowing you down. Vivaldi has many different ways to find, open & manage bookmarks. I think with a little more understanding and experience, you'll be familiar enough with the interface to take advantage of its flexibility.

    When I am sorting bookmarks, I hide all the unnecessary UI elements to have more room. Modifying the bookmark manager to remove the description & nickname columns reclaims a lot of space and reduces clutter. I have my tabs on the right, so I hit my keyboard shortcut to hide them. If I were using two tabs instead of a tab & panel, I would hide the panel. You may even find the "Toggle UI" shortcut useful in such a scenario.

    Being able to have more than tree view is really nice, I find it much faster than the single folder view that other browsers limit you to.

    One tip, when you've been working a while so there are lot of folders & subfolders open, and it takes a lot of scrolling to go from the top to the bottom past a lot of folders you don't need open anymore. You can right click and then choose "Collapse all folders". This resets your view so you can open just the folders you need.



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  • @bonetone Thanks for the video offer but please do not go to the trouble. I grasped your written description and can figure it out from there. Thanks for the very thorough response. (I have been using bookmark cleanup for a while and it is a great extension.

    I would ask how do you hide columns on the bookmark page?

    Thanks again for the advice!


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    @rgrun said in Bookmark organizing: Any good strategies until this is FIXED?:

    I would ask how do you hide columns on the bookmark page?

    You can use a modification of the browser UI.
    The CSS style solving your wishes would be

    div.bookmark.manager div.sortselector.sortselector-tableheader { display: none}
    

    But please read and ask in Vivaldi Modifications forum for more as it is not so easy to add this in Vivaldi resource files.



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  • @rgrun said in Bookmark organizing: Any good strategies until this is FIXED?:

    @bonetone Thanks for the video offer but please do not go to the trouble. I grasped your written description and can figure it out from there. Thanks for the very thorough response. (I have been using bookmark cleanup for a while and it is a great extension.

    I would ask how do you hide columns on the bookmark page?

    Thanks again for the advice!

    Here is the CSS I use to remove the Description and Nickname columns. I'm including some additional code that changes other areas of Vivaldi too, see the comments for what they do. If you use this code as is, it will also remove the Description field from the Bookmarks Panel, comment that line out if you want to keep it.

    /****************************************************
    ADD BOOKMARK - HIDE INPUT FIELDS ON ADDRESS BAR POPUP
    ****************************************************/
    /*
    .cardview.description, .cardview.nickname {display: none;}
    */
    
    /* this fixes popup height */
    /*
    .addbookmark-cardwrapper .dialog-content {min-height: auto;}
    */
    
    /*************************************
    BOOKMARKS PAGE (CTRL-B) - HIDE COLUMNS
    *************************************/
    
    /******* Fixes the headings for all columns *******/
    .manager.bookmark .vivaldi-tree .tree-row > label { flex-grow: 1; }
    
    /* This is an attempt to resize Address column, but not working */
    /*
    .manager .vivaldi-tree .tree-row label:nth-of-type(2),
    .manager .sortselector.sortselector-tableheader label:nth-of-type(2) {width: 20%;}
    */
    
    /* Count of items inside a folder??? Isn't this actually the Address column?  yeah... */
    /*
    .manager .vivaldi-tree .tree-row label:nth-of-type(2),
    .manager .sortselector.sortselector-tableheader label:nth-of-type(2),
    */
    
    /******* Description *******/
    
    /** Replaced by the following line with 2.8 upgrade
    .manager .vivaldi-tree .tree-row label:nth-of-type(3),
    **/
    .manager .sortselector.sortselector-tableheader div:nth-of-type(3),
    
    /******* Nickname *******/
    
    /** Replaced by the following line with 2.8 upgrade
    .manager .vivaldi-tree .tree-row label:nth-of-type(4),
    **/
    .manager .sortselector.sortselector-tableheader div:nth-of-type(4) {display: none;}
    
    /************************************************
    BOOKMARKS PANEL (CTRL-SHIFT-B) - HIDE INPUT BOXES
    ************************************************/
    
    /******* Trying to do Nickname *******/
    /*
    .manager-editor .lower-half > div:nth-of-type(3),
    */
    
    /******* Description *******/
    .manager-editor .lower-half > div:nth-of-type(1) {display: none !important;}
    
    /*******************************************
    Bonus: Hide the small preview too (on panel)
    *******************************************/
    /*
    .addbookmark-cardwrapper .upper-half .preview,
    .notes-cardwrapper .upper-half .preview {display: none;}
    */
    

    See this thread for how to install it: Modding Vivaldi

    Edit: Oh, note, the commented out code "trying to do nickname" it's an old hack I was trying a while back - it doesn't work, ignore it.


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