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Well it is a pain but hardly a deal breaker. Copy paste from LastPass works just fine and takes only a few more seconds.
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I'm loving vivaldi on the desktop but cannot fully adopt it until lastpass integration works across platforms, namely the android version at this point since the desktop extension is working perfectly well. I've tried again after almost every android app update.
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@flyingjake said in Lastpass:
I'm loving vivaldi on the desktop but cannot fully adopt it until lastpass integration works across platforms, namely the android version at this point since the desktop extension is working perfectly well. I've tried again after almost every android app update.
LastPass has said that they don't currently support Vivaldi, so they won't even accept a bug report on the issue. I urge everyone who is having this issue to not just voice their woes here, but do so in the LastPass forum as well -- demonstrate to them that they have a broad & vocal userbase that wants this. The password managers that have worked with Vivaldi to resolve the issue are already working. If LastPass can be shown the error of their way, users are likely to see this issue resolved more quickly, and with less risk of breakage in future releases of either Vivaldi or LastPass. Without support from LastPass, Vivaldi will always have to do more work than they should to support it.
In the meantime...
@distressed said in Lastpass:
Well it is a pain but hardly a deal breaker. Copy paste from LastPass works just fine and takes only a few more seconds.
... seems like a simple workaround. At least simple enough that I wouldn't let it stop me from using my preferred browser.
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@dpn it's discussed in this very thread, just go back a page or so -- people mention which ones they're using and what, if any, settings are needed. I don't use a password manger. BitWarden is one I believe.
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Any update on this? Or workaround for Lastpass? Its been too long.
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I'd like a status update as well. (And a fix even more!)
Good to see it is "in progress".By force of habit I still sometimes tap the LastPass proposed credentials and then time and time again I'm surprised that I can't log in (since the login and pass used are those for this domain, vivaldi.com, regardless of what website I'm really on.)
No, copy pasting from the app is not always an acceptable work-around: there are some websites that automatically refresh whenever focus returns to the page. So after you pasted your login, when you come back with your password, the page refreshes and gone is the login. With a name as long as mine, that is annoying.
By now, I have most of the sites and apps I use on mobile also in Vivaldi's built in password manager. But one majorly negative consequence of that is that I no longer rotate those passwords as often as I did before.
So therefore Vivaldi has become a threat to (my) online security.
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@jochenvdb said in Lastpass:
But one majorly negative consequence of that is that I no longer rotate those passwords as often as I did before.
So therefore Vivaldi has become a threat to (my) online security.
Think about that guys and gals.Actually, frequently changing your password for no reason other than being time-based is no longer recommended. Even LastPass recommends against this, instead these are the conditions for which they recommend changing your password:
- After a service discloses a security incident.
- There is evidence of unauthorized access to your account.
- There is evidence of malware or other compromise of your device.
- You shared access to an account with someone else and they no longer use the login.
- You logged in to the account on a shared or public computer (such as at a library or hotel).
- It’s been a year or more since you last changed the password, especially if you don’t have multi-factor authentication enabled.
Note, the only time-based interval they recommend is once per year. This is probably something of a CYA hangover from all those years of recommending frequently password changes. NIST Guidelines only include event-based password change policies.
It's time to rethink your security protocols.
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Nice sidetrack discussion. Mêh.
Yet still there are Vivaldi users who are eagerly awaiting news from their favorite browser about its support for the Android Automatic Password Fill API so that it'll function more smoothly with their password manager of choice.
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Hey, small update from our side.
Unfortunately we don't have any good news to share with regards to LastPass. Our devs have investigated the issue and have made some useful discoveries, but unfortunately we can't fix it on our own. We have reached out to a few password manager teams and, for example, Bitwarden has been great with adding support for Vivaldi and we've been discussing the issue with 1Password as well, but we haven't had such luck with reaching out to LastPass.
That's why we'd appreciate it, if all of you could report the issue to LastPass to bring more attention to it and make them see the importance of the bug to LastPass users.
Use any channel you prefer:- LastPass Community Forum
- Contact form at the bottom of their FAQ pages, for example this one
Also, please share any public discussions on other channels here, so we (team and community) could easily join in on the discussion.
Please note that, though, this is a high priority bug for us to fix, our team is still small and the devs have many other equally important tasks to focus on at the same time.
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@jane-n Thank you for responding to our calls for help.
The title of this thread is indeed about Lastpass and maybe there IS an issue on their part as well. But many users voiced in here in this thread as well as many others that they're having similar issues with other password managers.
I guess it all boils down to the real question "When will Vivaldi support the Android Autofill API?"
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That's why we'd appreciate it, if all of you could report the issue to LastPass to bring more attention to it and make them see the importance of the bug to LastPass users.
I've been pushing for LastPass users to bring this up on their forum for over a year now. Some said that they would, and I don't know if that ever happened, but it would be good if whoever did would share the link to the thread here so users of Vivaldi & LastPass can express their desire for LastPass' support.
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@S_Paternotte It actually boils down to something even further. In order to support Android Autofill API, we need to get on Android's compatibility list. How to get on this list is something the team has been trying to figure out, but we've exhausted quite a few options without much success.
If anyone in our community has any suggestions, we're all ears.
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@jane-n other Android browsers like DDG and Edge seem to support the api alright. Would it be possible to try and figure out how they managed to make it work?
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@S_Paternotte That's what we're trying to do.
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I posted about this in the LastPass forums now, hopefully that would help get some traction: https://community.logmein.com/t5/LastPass-Mobile-Apps/Not-working-with-Vivaldi-Browser-on-Android/m-p/255500#M188
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@anbugge Sadly their reply is that it's "not currently supported." They have let the devs know that users are interested in Vivaldi support, but there's no news, and to just watch their system requirements page for future updates. It would be nice if they'd reach out to Vivaldi to at least understand the scope of what needs to be done, as you had asked. Hopefully we'll get word from Vivaldi that they do just that soon.
Thank you for starting that thread! Great first post.
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I think it's up to Vivaldi devs to make it work, since LastPass devs won't support it and LastPass works fine with Firefox for android so they made it work without help from lastpass apparently.
Firefox is one of the browsers that LastPass supports. Meaning LastPass certainly makes sure that their product works with the browser.
It took BitWarden 10 very simple lines of code to support Vivaldi -- and that's actually to support 3 different SKUs of Vivaldi (stable, snapshot, and sopranos). It appears it would only take half that, or 5 very basic changes, for them to only support stable.
Now, the implementation is only one part of development cost. To do it properly (which I'm fairly certain LastPass does), they would also have to add it to their QA processes, and include a sign off for each release that it is working in Vivaldi. The good news about that is the automaton they already are using for Chrome, Edge & Opera would almost certainly work for Vivaldi as well; with some minor changes of course, but most if not all of that could be done with a search & replace, reducing human error as well.
Vivaldi sharing a significant portion of its code base with those 3 other browsers that LastPass already supports makes adding it to the supported browsers substantially less work than, for example, adding Firefox or Safari to the list of supported browsers (which they've done).
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@jane-n Thank you for doing all you can to work with LastPass, including participating in the thread and providing them with the information of what BitWarden did to support Vivaldi. This is clearly an important issue for many users.
I've never used a password manager before; I had developed my own method that had served me very well while also keeping the data secure. Now I need an easy way to make sure my partner can access all of my accounts, and although I've been using my old system for years and all the information is up-to-date, it's very much tailored to me and my workflows.
Partnership requires some changes in how one works & lives; thus I have begun researching password managers as a tool to include in my processes to make it as easy as I can for my partner to access all of our accounts, especially should something terrible happen to me.
As long as LastPass lacks support for Vivaldi, it won't even be a candidate for me. I've followed all these threads, and BitWarden's quick movement on this issue has put it at the top of my list for now. Though I'm still researching my decision, BitWarden has a lot of advantages that would keep it at the top of my list even if LastPass decides to work with Vivaldi.
BitWarden's open source nature is a major plus, but the perhaps the thing I like most of being able to self-host BitWarden rather than trusting such important data to someone else's hosting solution. Obviously, their quick action to enable support on Vivaldi is an important indicator of how they handle compatibility issues, and gives me confidence should I run into a similar issue with some other technology in the future.
So I, and certainly many others, appreciate y'all making use of every avenue & opportunity to make this work, even if my ultimate decision is to use a different password manager.