Grammar Checker Proof-reader
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I know about extensions like Grammarly, which work well enough, but they are intrusive and there are privacy concerns if you check emails or contribute to private forums.
Spell-checkers do not pick up common errors like writing "there", when one should have written "their," or "they're."
A built-in poof-reader would be a great asset.
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Is vivaldi supporting Grammarly at all? I tried it today but it seems not to work fine in vivaldi.
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It seems also languagetool.org is not working as extenion.
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@TimB79
Languagetool.org works fine. You need to give it permission to send the text (encrypted) to its servers).Grammarly works only if one disables the blocking of tracking cookies (not recommended).
This is why I started this thread. We need built-in grammar checking to avoid possible privacy or security issues.
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Where do I find "permission to send the text (encrypted) to its servers"?
And to "disable the blocking of tracking cookies"?I looked at privacy settings. Tracker and ad blocking seems to be "No blocking" by default. I have "No blocking" set and never changed anything.
On the bottom is "Third Party Cockie", here is set "Block in Incognito".I see no option for "permission to send the text (encrypted) to its servers" (for Languagetool ) or "disable the blocking of tracking cookies" (for Grammarly)
About...
"We need built-in grammar checking to avoid possible privacy or security issues."
... yes, you are totally right, but this will not be easy. Grammarly is a bigger software product and doing spelling checks and grammer checks on a very high context level is really not easy. It do not thing vivaldi devs will bring out a own really good context aware spelling and grammer checker. But yes, this would be a really, really great addition and a very unique and helpul browser feature. -
@TimB79 When you install language tool this dialog appears.
I think blocking is enabled by default, but I may be wrong. Grammarly did not work for me until I disabled it.
Yes, it may be too much to expect from the Vivaldi Team, but perhaps they could use the Open Source Proofreader linked to in my first post. Just "smart quotes" would be helpful. Language tool does not support them.
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@Pesala : Curios, I accepted the question you showed already and changed nothing, but today Lanuagetool is working fine. Perhaps I missed a message that a browser restart is needed? It was definatly not working right after installment, I tested at least 3 times writing at twitter. And today it is working on twitter posts fine. So Lanuagetool is working.
But for Grammerly I still stuck. If you would be so kind to install grammerly just for a temporary test on your side, if you bring it to work, would be great. I know its much, but so people find this threat can be sure that it working at least for vivaldi on your side. And I have to figure out what setting is blocking grammerly on my side.
Big thanks for your advises!
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@TimB79 I already tested it. As I said, remove blocking.
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@Pesala Thanks, but currios. As I said, my default was (and still is) no blocking in settings. I check the site settings as you show, but mine is already no block:
Screen shot from my site , twitter example:
I see Grammerly is active as extension on the top-right of vivaldi, where all extensions show up. Currently I only have Grammerly on, to be sure it's not broken because of other extensions.
But still is not grammerly active when writing in text boxes.
I tested at twitter and on google docs, no grammerly icons shows up.
Here twitter example:
As I understand, same as with Lanuagetool, on the lower-right-side, icons and advices/checks should appear. For Lanuagetool its working, on Grammerly I see nothing appearing. -
Now it working. I think it was again restart is needed (and/or site reload), stopping language tool and start vivaldi again and reload the site, and then grammerly icon showed up. Seems scripts are loaded at reload of site.
But seems to find not really context sensitiv things. I can type complete non-sense and grammerly is not giving advices. I thought it would work better. -
Just for the next people searching web for Grammarly and LanguageTool with Vivaldi.
So, I got both working. It's important to reload the site, even after restart the browser. The site reload is the necessary thing.But I am very disappointed. From Grammarly totally. LanguageTool could be better, but found more mistakes in my nonsense text as Grrammerly.
Grammerly output screenshot follow next. On Grammerly I am also disappointed, that clicking the icon is just showing ads for buying it instead a summary:
Crazy how many obvious mistakes Grammarly is missing!LanguageTool finds more mistakes. And I also like the summary output.
LanguageTool output screenshot follow next.
That both tools are not correcting "is you" to "are you" I am wondering a lot. Are English sentence possible where "is you" make sense?
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@TimB79 said in Grammar Checker Proof-reader:
Are English sentence possible where "is you" make sense?
When language mistakes are made, the cause is you!
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in your screenshot example, the "or is you" is a basic grammar mistake. it is disappointing that those two grammar checkers didn't catch that. even though you are testing the basic versions, not premium, it is a basic grammar mistake, so it should have been caught.
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@TsunamiZ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LGl70VGvmg :face_savouring_delicious_food:
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that song's name of "IS YOU IS OR IS YOU AIN'T MY BABY" is just a stylized way of speaking by some african americans, but it is wrong grammar. correctly, it should be "ARE YOU OR ARE YOU NOT MY BABY".
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