Excessive content menu entries and annoying openening of new tab in foreground



  • I really loved and moved totally from chrome to vivladi , but few thigns are putting me off .

    1.) Why is there hundreds of context menu entries ?

    https://i.imgur.com/bdCv2qX.png

    There should be option to fine tune to it and allow users to choose what they want.

    The context menu just takes entire screen and sometimes it just becomes tedious to search within this pile of options .. unproductive

    2.) Please implement opening of new link in background ASAP , you are just breaking the usual work pathway for many . It should be the rule to open new links in background and not foreground , if is so , please provide option to open it in background.



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    @nr2019 middle-click opens link in a background tab. So does ctrl+click. So can a mouse gesture, or selecting the second item in the context menu instead of the first. So there are "options." There just is, at present, no option to convert the first option to being background.

    (Historical note) The Old Opera crew, including its founder who is now the founder of the new Vivaldi, and various developers and others who were originally at Old Opera and are now at Vivaldi, invented the "open link in new tab" function. As invented, it opened the link in a new tab which had focus. The purpose of the function was to go immediately to the link target, without losing the tab you had been in. Firefox and later Chrome and IE, copied the function, but in reverse. "New tab" was always in the background. Vivaldi was introduced, in large part, to provide a safe harbor for abandoned users of Old Opera, who hated the direction of New Opera. As such, its "New tab" function was the one originally invented by the developers of Opera. As I say, just a historical note.



  • @lamarca said in Excessive content menu entries and annoying openening of new tab in foreground:

    Mouse is different from your screenshot!
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    Try it on an image (which is also a link) e.g. your avatar picture 😄

    Edit: @nr2019 as this happens on an image (which is also a link) all the options may be relevant. No way to choose/predict which should be removed.



  • @lamarca yes i failed to say that these options popup when opening an image .

    It may be relevant , but on my other browser its less.



  • @Ayespy I did find other options to the same function , but when many users who are coming from FF , chrome , they are used to certain way of browsing websites ,if you are goign to break it in a major way , then users are going to quickly abandon it. Even i am finding new stuffs on vivaldi , but still i use waterfox ( i dont use FF now) as my major driver though. I did port everything from chrome to vivaldi since i use two browsers mostly.

    My point is atleast hav that option so that we can get used to our own way of browsing and which in turn might help in discovering the exhaustive features in vivaldi.


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    @nr2019 Currently the request for editing menus has the highest number of votes in the public feature request tracker.

    Hopefully it will be introduced one day, given how many users are asking for it.



  • @nr2019 said

    My point is at least have that option so that we can get used to our own way of browsing and which in turn might help in discovering the exhaustive features in Vivaldi like Image Properties, Search Bing for Image, or Inspect Element, which they might not otherwise learn about for a long time.

    It is harder to find features if they are not on the default menus. The image link context menu has 23 items (still too many), not hundreds, but it is important for users to be able to remove items that they never use.

    Access keys are also incomplete at the moment, and could be added or modified by editing menus. Right-click, I will open Image Properties, while Right-click, S will search Bing for an image.


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    @nr2019 Vivaldi aims to please, so I should think that what you want will be in the pipeline sooner or later.



  • @nr2019 In absence of any advice, report a bug. You will be given a numnber (VB-xxxxxx), please post it here for our follow up.



  • Thanks for all the replies. But till i get right click open to open new tab in background , i simply couldnt use vivaldi.

    I really love the features , the download menu , just recently i was using , was wonderful. I still dont understand why break the usual(age old) habit of internet users , particularly when you want people to climb your ship.

    Sorry guys , but i am shifting to brave as secondary browser to try it on , will come or use it then and there if things are sorted out.

    Thanks again for fast replies here in this forum. Love your features ... keep up the good work.



  • One more thing before i go , the tab closure order is simply annoying. I tried to change the order , but still its closing in some weird order .. dont know how to put it.. one can compare it with firefox or waterfox to know about it .

    Also we should have ability to set a fixed tab size , i use so much tabs and after a time all i see is small tab which gives no deatils, on other hand on my waterfox , i can set teh tab size fixed , and it extends the entire tab column to almost like next page



  • @nr2019 said in Excessive context menu entries and annoying opening of new tab in foreground:

    But till i get right click open to open new tab in background , I simply couldn't use Vivaldi.

    It is already there.

    0_1563527725013_Open Link in Background Tab.png

    There are several options for Close Tab Activation. Take your pick.

    0_1563527797440_Close Tab Activation.png



  • @nr2019 said in Excessive content menu entries and annoying openening of new tab in foreground:

    Sorry guys , but i am shifting to brave as secondary browser to try it on , will come or use it then and there if things are sorted out.

    Brave? Good luck with that lol.



  • @Pesala said in Excessive content menu entries and annoying openening of new tab in foreground:

    @nr2019 said in Excessive context menu entries and annoying opening of new tab in foreground:

    But till i get right click open to open new tab in background , I simply couldn't use Vivaldi.

    It is already there.

    0_1563527725013_Open Link in Background Tab.png

    There are several options for Close Tab Activation. Take your pick.

    0_1563527797440_Close Tab Activation.png

    Yes its there , but by default it opens into the active new tab , which is not there in other browser .

    As for tab closure .. i cant find the correct setting ..



  • @nr2019 said:

    Yes its there , but by default it opens into the active new tab , which is not there in other browser .

    By default right-click, "Open link in new background tab" does exactly that. Do you mean that it is not the topmost item on the menu, or are you referring to left click on a link? That depends on how the link is coded by the website. It may open the link in the current tab, or in new foreground tab.

    0_1563532734725_Hyperlink Target.png

    As for tab closure .. I cant find the correct setting ..

    What behaviour do you want?



  • @npro said in Excessive content menu entries and annoying openening of new tab in foreground:

    @nr2019 said in Excessive content menu entries and annoying openening of new tab in foreground:

    Sorry guys , but i am shifting to brave as secondary browser to try it on , will come or use it then and there if things are sorted out.

    Brave? Good luck with that lol.

    @npro said in Excessive content menu entries and annoying openening of new tab in foreground:

    @nr2019 said in Excessive content menu entries and annoying openening of new tab in foreground:

    Sorry guys , but i am shifting to brave as secondary browser to try it on , will come or use it then and there if things are sorted out.

    Brave? Good luck with that lol.

    i am a FF user for long time , after they ditched legacy add-on i moved to waterfox and its my main driver.

    I used chrome as second browser , but always wanted to ditch google , so came to vivaldi.. but many stuffs are breaking my usual way of browsing . so trying out brave , if it doesnt work , then go to opera ..



  • @Pesala said in Excessive content menu entries and annoying openening of new tab in foreground:

    @nr2019 said:

    Yes its there , but by default it opens into the active new tab , which is not there in other browser .

    By default right-click, "Open link in new background tab" does exactly that. Do you mean that it is not the topmost item on the menu, or are you referring to left click on a link? That depends on how the link is coded by the website. It may open the link in the current tab, or in new foreground tab.

    0_1563532734725_Hyperlink Target.png

    As for tab closure .. I cant find the correct setting ..

    What behaviour do you want?

    ok got the tab closure setting properly.

    as for the background tab , yes the context menu entry should be first , not second , because in all other browser , open in new tab default behavior is to open in background.


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    @nr2019 "...because in all other browser..." who stole the function from OldeOpera, and reversed it.



  • @nr2019 Firefox does not have an option to open a link in a new foreground tab. One has to change the default to always focus the new tab. Then it has no option to open in a background tab.

    Vivaldi has both options on the right-click menu.


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