Is Opera envy of Razer Chroma support in Vivaldi? :D



  • They've announced new browser for gamers https://www.opera.com/gx + blog post: https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2019/05/opera-gx-early-access/

    What do you think? What will this will be about? And why as another browser, not integrated into current one?


    modedit corrected link



  • For me it is the worst idea of ​​the Opera since the dawn, and also a boorish copy of Vivaldi.


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    It's another browser because it's pure PR stunt. Later they'll just scratch it saying they did not have enough users. They've done that before. They might later merge it with the main browser but that's a remote possibility.

    Vivaldi is taking the news in the gaming circles so they are trying to get in the bandwagon.



  • @An_dz I predict that they will merge it into the main Opera (I guessed that would happen last time they last made a specialized browser build).


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    @Chas4 We would need to see the browser first to make a better prediction, for now it's either merge or the bin. Honestly I think it's just a rushed sketch and they'll not have enough time to actually make something actually that "big". And as a gamer myself I can't really see a thing that would make a browser better for my gamer self, except like 80% less resource usage, but that's wishful thinking.



  • @An_dz I am guessing based on what Opera has done in the past with special builds of Opera.



  • @MattSolo45 Why is everyone so quiet right now? Isn't because GX is way better than Razer integration? 😃

    Mod edit - removed personal insults. Please observe the community Code of Conduct.


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    @FagSolo45 Oh yes, now we all are lost in space without such feature in Vivaldi. Opera will win the gamer race of browsers. We all gonna dieeeee!


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    @FagSolo45 I just don't give a flip about Opera, so I did not even know it was released already. Yet, one has to wait until they decide to kill it in the next few months and see how many of those features will be merged in the official build.



  • Unbiased I'd say it's a pretty cool idea, going even further than Vivaldi's adoption. As I'm not a gamer, I'm not interested in both, anyway.
    I feel that Opera is a very decent browser. So is Vivaldi. There are times, I like the former more, and others when I prefer the latter.
    I haven't my mind made up, yet. And actually, you shouldn't either. There are some features in normal Opera that aren't matched by Vivaldi (Ad-blocking, VPN, consistent WhatsApp-support, My Flow) and others from Vivaldi that aren't matched by Opera (Tab tiling, web panels, theming) But to blame them to find new users with gaming seems a bit hypocritical to me as Vivaldi has gone the same way, if not that consequently.


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    I tested it for a few minutes and the CPU/RAM throttle is a very nice idea, but at the same time the browser itself has some animations that put my CPU to run at 30%. And it could allow changing the value per multiples of 512 MB instead of 1024 MB for the RAM and 10% for the CPU.

    All the rest is useless to me or similar to Vivaldi.



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  • @npro said in Is Opera envy of Razer Chroma support in Vivaldi? 😃:

    @FagSolo45 Opera GX better ahahaha nice troll you are. Suddenly all fanboys of chinese-polish-Opera came out of their holes and rejoyed because of a skin change lmao. But that's them, typical losers to quote him.

    Sounds like some sort of racism, actually. I don't think, it's worthy of Vivaldi. Isn't it?



  • @npro these words about the Polish-Chinese browser what they aimed at? it was very inappropriate and being a Vivaldi visitor to know that many nationalities are responsible for your browser and insulting someone's origin, belief or opinion is unacceptable to me. I respect your opinion and you have the right to your opinion but you also have to respect the opinion and opinion of others and not to offend someone. and p.s. what about these nationalities is The Witcher 3 can be played? Or maybe you are waiting for the Polish Cyberpunk 2077? And what else do we have with the other offended nationality, that is, Chinese brands such as Oneplus Xiaomi etc. and many more so next time stop because you will hurt yourself.


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    @MattSolo45 @HealingCross You need to improve your English, @npro message was not racist. The skin part was about the Opera UI and not the developers skin colour. And the Polish-Chinese remark was to show there's a difference between the old Norwegian-led team.

    Nonetheless the message was still an ad hominen against @FagSolo45 and so offensive.



  • @An_dz I'm really sorry to say, that my English is good enough to listen to the undertones of a statement, where Polish-Chinese - supposed to be bad (which part actually?) - is set against Norwegian-Icelandic (nordic and white), seen as good and trustworthy.
    Compare their products and their economic philosophies, that's ok, but don't let anyone sort others by their country or nation.


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    is set against Norwegian-Icelandic (nordic and white)

    So Polish people are not white now?

    Compare their products and their economic philosophies, that's ok, but don't let anyone sort others by their country or nation.

    Simply stating the obvious (that Opera is led by a Chinese company with Polish developers) is not an offense, but an specification of what "Opera" is being talked about.

    I don't imply from others' messages as I can't be sure of the meaning the person intended, most especially on an international forum where people from different cultures with different English knowledge participate. With special regard on not calling others of things that can cause them financial, social or personal harm, like imputing them of being racist.

    And sorting people from their country/nation of origin is not wrong. Bashing people for this same thing is.



  • By the way: Opera is a Norwegian company.

    "Opera Software AS is a Norwegian software company, primarily known for its desktop Opera web browser, and mobile web browser Opera Mini."

    And:
    "Opera is also involved in promoting Web standards through participation in the W3C. The company has its headquarters in Oslo, Norway and also has offices in Sweden, Poland, China, Japan, South Korea, Australia, Russia, Ukraine, Iceland, Singapore, Taiwan and the United States."

    Maybe, the poster's English was quite bad, nevertheless him pointing to Chinese and Polish developers doesn't indeed make any sense except for finding inferiority in their descent. And it's even only half a truth.

    I don't like Opera-bashing in this forum, anyway. But I understand there's a history that has lead to Vivaldi and it's somehow bound to Opera. But, I don't see any good reason for to set people from East Europe against those from the North.

    To me the file is closed now. I would use both of them Vivaldi and Opera from the standpoint of usability and not where the employees stem from. I hope I've made my position clear with that.



  • @HealingCross said in Is Opera envy of Razer Chroma support in Vivaldi? 😃:

    "Opera Software AS is a Norwegian software company, primarily known for its desktop Opera web browser, and mobile web browser Opera Mini."
    And:
    "Opera is also involved in promoting Web standards through participation in the W3C. The company has its headquarters in Oslo, Norway and also has offices in Sweden, Poland, China, Japan, South Korea, Australia, Russia, Ukraine, Iceland, Singapore, Taiwan and the United States."

    Citing Wikipedia:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_Software



  • Cool, personal insults towards everyone here were edited in that post. So, to begin with, let's not forget that Opera Software ASA became Otello Corporation ASA https://www.otellocorp.com/, and the "browser division" was sold to a chinese conglomerate consisting of some "dubious" companies, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qihoo_360#Controversies) and is under that chinese ownership for whatever that means to everyone, and is not the same Opera it used to be when it was under Jon's supervision and when the original team of development residing in Norway was not fired and the offices there not "forced" to close, both events leading to Jon taking stance about it. Anyone that has followed new Opera's direction and browser quality over those years can understand what impact those two factors had, others? well just take a look at how many "updates" their... "stable" branch contains, http://ftp.opera.com/ftp/pub/opera/desktop/ with Opera 60 stealing the cake, how many (useless) UI redesigns they have made instead of user requests, and how many versions they skip from time to time, or breaking things that work for the sake of it, infuriating their remaining fans, or... what has left of them over the years. Or you can skip all of that and think for a moment "why does Vivaldi actually exist in the first place and is constantly growing, if Opera would be "that great" after those "so positive" cataclysmic events?"
    So, to come back to topic, since someone thought? that it was too quiet here and asked? for commenting, here's my opinion about that OperaGX:

    So I tried it after reading the comments here, and one word is enough. Ugly: Very hard to the eyes, even harder than their default browser, it's practically Opera 60 (still on Chromium 73) hard-reskinned one time more (how many reskins did they do over 10 I suppose over the years since the switch) with all of Opera's flaws and lack of features and customizability. For hardcore gamers, even losing 1% of CPU cycle is not allowed, so that limiter thing is just a gimmick no gamer will ever use. I certainly wouldn't allow to lose 25% at max of CPU power, which is the minimum you can set. In conclusion, you can do as many fancy animations you can but this won't ever make your problematic browser better in terms of customizability, ergonomy and functionality. Regarding Razer, although I don't have any such peripheral, Vivaldi's idea is in my opinion much more unique and fun. Every tab changes the color of your RGB peripherals, in OperaGX you just choose a color to match your peripheral color, a thing you already can do in Vivaldi. I've uninstalled it quickly. I play games too but I prefer a nice blue-navish calm palette tone with my browser which I can do with Vivaldi, and not that extreme ugliness.


 

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