Browse with full color: Vivaldi browser enables Razer Chroma



  • @lucasantunes Opera has just announced how they are copying Vivaldi's concept and idea only just 2 weeks after Vivaldi did this great move of targeting the PC gamer crowd, shamelessly advertising it as "theirs", so I doubt it's superfluous, they 've just shit their pants of losing users to Vivaldi, which shows how powerful Vivaldi is and becomes day by day.



  • @npro

    The vast majority of people commenting on that announcement (per their blog), which I assume are Opera users, are not impressed and indeed seem to find it superfluous. So that assertion is not without it's merits. Unless you have some data to support your claim?

    Opera have been doing a whole lot of copying anyway so this isn't anything new.



  • @npro I'd guess they put their own spin on it. The concept of a gaming browser is somewhat flawed, because few gamers play in the browser. Games are either standalone apps, distributed through platforms like Steam, run on company software (Blizzard), etc. – Quite pointless.



  • Another new feature! … in no way related to web browsing.
    Nice achievement.



  • Return the ability to update the preview of the initial page with one button.



  • @sjudenim Their blog consists of some user relics of old Opera Presto that are addicted to using the brandname (and because they can sync with the mobile app) despite knowing that Opera under new management has nothing to do with the old Opera (due to Jon leaving of course) and are never being heard throughout the years, yet keep asking for the same things all over again like tab stacks etc. It's pretty funny and tragic at the same time lol. It's only a sometimes "loud" very minor fragment (how many are there 10-20 people out of millions of users) of the whole user base which consists of non-tech savvy people and fashionistas who are being offered an alternative iOS product with the same "lifestyle". Remember they are designing the browser the way they know it will create more revenue for them and not for that minority's needs, behind them they have (chinese) shareholders who want to see growing numbers to keep funding the giant (on clay feet, if you look at the browser share which is at about 1.5%, constantly falling throughout the years despite huge false advertisement efforts and redesigning the UI 2 times a year presenting the browser as new every time, and mostly because of the penetration in Africa due to their mobile news app). It is of no coincidence this move they made 2 weeks after Vivaldi, or how would you explain it?

    @luetage As far as I read and understood it's not a gaming browser the way you describe it, it's closer to what Vivaldi did, a browser for gaming setups (hardware peripherals etc)



  • @npro

    That sounds like a whole lot of conjecture.

    Opera is currently sitting at a 1.6% market share on desktop/laptop. If I recall correctly, Presto used to occupy a 3.6% dent in market share. That would suggest that new Opera is haemorrhaging users, and things are worse on mobile (0.37%) which used to be even stronger. They currently have 2 or 3 different UI variations in the works to try and appeal to someone, it wreaks of desperation to me

    (yes, that's conjecture too. Now here's some more).

    Gamers are a niche market and not every gamer uses those peripherals, so really it's a niche inside of a niche. Personally I don't mind but I would like to see long standing issues not take so much of a backseat to things like this, which inevitably will bring in some new bugs of their own. But I understand the need to keep things fresh too, it's a balancing act and I think Vivaldi are doing a good job with it.

    A bigger gripe is the fixed release date, the last few stables haven't been ready for those dates and have had updates within a few days of their release. This has been a trend in tech that I'm not a fan of. But I digress...



  • @sjudenim
    I second this, RC time is to short.
    Sometimes a stable release was published 2 days after a release candidate, way to short for serious testing. It should be a week at least.

    Cheers, mib



  • @mib2berlin said in Browse with full color: Vivaldi browser enables Razer Chroma:

    It should be a week at least.

    Depends, what kind of feature you are testing.



  • @jacekn: I have exactly the same issue. Left tiled tab is sluggish/slow. Did you file a bug report?

    And anyone knows if I can contribute to that?



  • Will there be support for Logitech G and Corsair soon? Asking for a friend 😅



  • @pesala: "Gamers spend hours online doing nothing useful for anyone. Typical games involve racing and shooting, both of which cultivate unhealthy mental habits."

    "I don't doubt that gaming is a huge market, as is porn. They are of a similar nature — both of them corrupt the mind."

    Did you have fun on your soap box? Geeez. I bet you think rock and roll is the devil as well XD



  • @pesala: "One developer spent a couple of months thinking about how to implement it (no doubt he was working on other stuff too, but it was not a simple thing to do)"

    Do you have a source for that? Razer has a full SDK for their Chroma lighting system. I HIGHLY doubt writing the code to simply pass the accent color selected in Vivaldi (or the accent color adapted from the current page) to the Chroma service took any significant amount of time. Def not anywhere near enough taht twenty to thirty other things could have been done. If so that programmer needs to be fired.


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    @sean8102 said in Browse with full color: Vivaldi browser enables Razer Chroma:

    Razer has a full SDK for their Chroma lighting system.

    The current SDK is Windows-only.


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    @sean8102 said in Browse with full color: Vivaldi browser enables Razer Chroma:

    Did you have fun on your soap box? Geeez. I bet you think rock and roll is the devil as well XD

    Please calm down. If you have trouble with a user please contact them by chat.


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    @sean8102 said in Browse with full color: Vivaldi browser enables Razer Chroma:

    @pesala: "One developer spent a couple of months thinking about how to implement it (no doubt he was working on other stuff too, but it was not a simple thing to do)"

    Do you have a source for that?

    The source is the original Blog post for this thread.

    @ Petter Nilsen said:

    A few months ago, another gamer suggested integration with Razer Chroma on Reddit (where I also spend a lot of time), and I was hooked on the idea.

    So, from then until May 8th when Chrome Razer support was released I assume that he was working on it in his spare time.

    The biggest challenge was that in order to be able to synchronize color change across multiple connected devices, it had to be done in C++. The Razer SDK, while being quite powerful, was lacking a bit in the higher level overview documentation so it took me a while to figure out how to best proceed to achieve what I wanted.

    I suggest that you spend more time reading the forum Code of Conduct and stop suggesting that the developer who worked on it should be fired.

    It is my honest opinion that precious development time should not have been wasted on that coding, but clearly he was not doing it without permission, nor being idle because it took a couple of months to complete.

    There are some 1,922 feature requests still waiting for the developers' attention, but not one of them requested Razer support.


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    @Pesala And yet the Razer Chroma feature did its job. It attracted multiple favorable articles, more than one video praising it, and attracted eyeballs and users. Several "non requested" features have been implemented with similar result.


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    @Ayespy I think it would generate a lot more new users and positive feedback if they implemented a decent built-in Download Manager or Allowed Editing of Menus.

    We have been waiting years for these important enhancements, and clearly no one even gave Razer Chrome or Philips Hue support a second thought before they appeared. They are just gimmicks. Let's not lose sight of the real purpose of an Internet browser.

    Tesla's whoopy cushion fart noises might generate some press inches, but it is performance, range, and safety that really matter.


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    @Pesala We all know what matters, of course. And one of the things that matters is PR/eyeballs/new users/enhanced income. Novelty is key to driving interest.

    I think one of the smart things Jon does (aside from giving the Team an actual ownership stake in the company) is letting the crew have its head much of the time, in many ways; letting them keep themselves entertained and interested. It generates both loyalty and productivity, and is good for morale. When I was at Magnolia, one of the things I noticed was that there was no sense of being driven or browbeaten or under the gun. Everyone there was committed to creating an excellent user experience and making the browser/the company successful, because it's both literally and metaphorically theirs - not because "management" says so.

    Part of the evidence of this approach is the occasional vanity project undertaken by a team member or two. I don't begrudge them that. I've no sense of how they "should" spend their time. I'm just glad they're doing this for us.

    I think the things we take too seriously in life, we give the power to cause us misery. Don't you?

    My two cents.


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