Closing on stable – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 1525.36
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@x-15a2 , you are right.
Cheers,
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@npro: I think the main issue would be the support for Chrome's extensions.
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@jon: What about forking Chromium and building the native UI, then? Instead of using Electron.
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@XtremAlRaven , we are not using Electron. The UI is built using Web standards. That allows us to work a lot faster and ensure that Vivaldi across platforms has the same functionality. In the early days of Opera we did native code only. At the time the Mac version was as much as a year behind. After we implemented Quick, which was a cross platform layer, we were able to get all platforms to the same level of functionality and develop new functionality a lot faster.
If we were to fork Chromium, we would still have to deal with any security fixes that otherwise might compromise Vivaldi, so we would have to deal with an increasingly divergent code base. That does not make things easier. It makes it harder, so forking is a big, big decision and would require a lot more resources.
For any speed issues you have, make sure to report them in our bug tracking system with as much details as possible. Our users have a very different experience of this and our aim is to fix any performance issues you might have with your system.
Cheers,
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@rwtete said in Closing on stable – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 1525.36:
keyboard always pops out when opening tab as it auto activates the address bar.
Would "Tools/Settings/Tabs - Tab Handling - Focus Page Content on New Tab" do what you wish?
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@jon said in Closing on stable – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 1525.36:
@Network , switching to the Gecko engine now would just require a lot of work. I think our efforts are better spent improving the code we are working on and adding new features, settings and anything you ask for.
As much as we would love to update Vivaldi for XP and Vista, it is just not trivial to do [...] I would urge for you to update any machines still running on XP and Vista to a new OS, if at all possible. Linux may be a great choice for you!
To follow up on what Jon said, I was one of the people who was very disappointed when Vivaldi dropped XP. As time has gone by and everything else also dropped XP (including Microsoft, Java, the anti-virus I was using...) - and as it ended up spending half an hour after boot just trying (and failing) to update everything - I stopped using my little netbook a couple of years ago.
Last month, I finally decided that it was better to try installing Linux than leaving it dead in a drawer - so I managed to get Lubuntu onto it... and Vivaldi works fine now (although it is a bit slow and you should try not to open more than a couple of tabs). Plus VLC actually runs much better in Lubuntu than it ever did in Windows, so I am suddenly using it as a portable media player again!
TLDR: I agree with Jon: give up on XP and install a "light" Linux like Lubuntu - your machine will actually run better than on Windows!
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@npro: for me the issue is that with tiled tabs - even if performance is kind of okay (it is slow on youtube, but pretty ok on other pages) - i usually cannot navigate inside tiled tabs.
typing an address and hitting ENTER does nothing. clicking links does nothing. even opening links in new tab does nothing.
this isn't always the case, but few tab switches between tiled and not tiled tabs and this usually happens within first minute.
after untiling i still cannot navigate. i have to close the tab and open new one.
anyone can test and confirm/deny?
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@jacekn: oh, looks like i've already commented on that and got confirmed: https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/288453
time to report that
edit: reported VB-52789
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@jacekn yes it's exactly the same for me, but because I thought all of these things would be pretty obvious (and already known) to the devs and testers, I summed them up under the phrase "huge performance issues" & "insane lag and stutter". It must be also related to this "https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/36970/severe-performance-drop-of-tabs-moved-in-a-second-window/23", both must be affected by the same bug.
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@npro: well, performance is kind of okay for me (except youtube) so i wouldn't tie these two as too obvious
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Hey @jon any news on the webpanel scroll bar thing? i cant add more webpanels
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Also will there be any new features for stable 2.5?
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@joao-rossa For now, you can use keyboard shortcuts to access up to 9 web panels, then use the Next Panel shortcut to access the 10th panel, the 11th panel, etc.
How many panels do you have?
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I am on Vivaldi 2.5.1525.4 There is bug in context menu update notification
Is it fixed now?
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@mtaki14: This issue has been here since the 2.0 release, so it won't stop any releases (as the final already has the issue), but we are actively working on a fix, I am hopeful it will be in a minor update / snapshot soon
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@Aronand you mean it's coming back as regression every now and then? Because I can't notice any lag and stutter in Stable 2.4, works fine there.
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@Pesala I have around 19 webpanels xD
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I experience a really weird behaviour with this snapshot. I use tabs on the left side. Whenever I close a tab, the tab list would "redraw". Now it doesn't. After tab closing I opened two new tabs. One is now "on top" of the other. Attached a screenshot for better visualisation
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@joao-rossa I guess you really need a scrollbar, but you could try rotating your monitor to portrait mode if it supports it.
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@npro: It should be reproducible, if I have the correct information, all the way back to 2.0, I'll check.