Ad-block Feature Conforming to Better Ads Standards



  • I think it is better to add Ad-block feature conforming ‘Better Ads Standards’ to Vivaldi. I agree Jon von Tetzchner CEO’s opinion WEB needs Ads. But almost users want Ad-block and almost users use Ad-Block extension. If Vivaldi are added Ad-block feature conforming ‘Better Ads Standards’, I think both Jon & some users can be satisfied about it.

    Chrome get this feature. But Vivaldi don't have Ad-Block feature. So, this will become one weak point of Vivaldi.

    And If Vivaldi get this feature, I think it will have a positive impact to Vivaldi and WEB.



  • @kyu3a it's not already an option in in site settings? 😕
    Acceptable ads is not an adblocker and won't keep safe from tracking and invasive ads which use "hacks" to bypass such protection. And you can't choose anymore which ad is legit or not, if you use a built-in solution or an adblocker with acceptable policy on.
    Whitelist any site you want to support is still the best way.



  • Most of the time, I preferred browser native function over extensions, except when browser's native function is far inferior to extensions. Then I would rather not having more crappy functions bloating the browser, & settle with extensions which can do much better job than what web browser maker "willing" to do.

    Anyone remember Popup blocker? It's a standard feature in all modern browser now days, but we are still bombard by popup windows just like a decade ago... 😒

    Then there is Do Not Track function that actually will make user easier to be profile & track by malicious tracker if enabled... Oh, the irony! 🤣 🤣 🤣

    Also, remember the HTML5 video/audio autoplay standard nonsense? It's not an accident, overlooked mistake, or human error, it's an intentional design feature for streaming ads! Guess WHO is the one behind this? Guess WHO got the most ads profit from it... 🤑

    Sorry, I just can't feel optimistic about this. We got dupe by Google for too many times, I refuse to believe Google will do no evil.



  • Lo & behold! Google expanding Ad Blocker effort... My ass!!! 🖕🏼
    https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/266840

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/01/22/google_chrome_browser_ad_content_block_change/

    Just as I suspected, Google is up to no good again.
    Very, very EVIL indeed. 🙈 🙉 🙊

    So, what is really happening? Ad blocker user numbers are growing at rapid pace in recent years, & Google ads profit is threaten by the ever growing Ad blocker. So now the big G attempting to kidnap & purge Ad blocker's adoption rate by cripple it's effectiveness, then forcing Chromium user to use Google version of Ad Blocker! An Ad blocker by Ad company? No joke... 🤣

    Will it backfire on Google? Will Google Chrome bleed user like IE afterward? Will Firefox take advantage of this blunder & rise again? How about the valiant Vivaldi? Will Vivaldi file complaint to the EU like before?! 😲

    Stay tune, & grab some popcorn! Star Wars episode 9 Browser Wars episode 3: Battle for the Ad Blocker is about to begin!


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    @dude99 said in Ad-block Feature Conforming to Better Ads Standards:

    Lo & behold! Google expanding Ad Blocker effort... My ass!!! 🖕🏼
    https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/266840

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/01/22/google_chrome_browser_ad_content_block_change/

    Just as I suspected, Google is up to no good again.
    Very, very EVIL indeed. 🙈 🙉 🙊

    So, what is really happening? Ad blocker user numbers are growing at rapid pace in recent years, & Google ads profit is threaten by the ever growing Ad blocker. So now the big G attempting to kidnap & purge Ad blocker's adoption rate by cripple it's effectiveness, then forcing Chromium user to use Google version of Ad Blocker! An Ad blocker by Ad company? No joke... 🤣

    Will it backfire on Google? Will Google Chrome bleed user like IE afterward? Will Firefox take advantage of this blunder & rise again? How about the valiant Vivaldi? Will Vivaldi file complaint to the EU like before?! 😲

    Stay tune, & grab some popcorn! Star Wars episode 9 Browser Wars episode 3: Battle for the Ad Blocker is about to begin!

    It is effectively evil. Google certainly earns money by vending user data to various companies so that they place their ads on the different pages with products that 'may interest us' to 'improve the user experience,' as they claim.
    I call it simply SPAM.
    Every day we take out a billet of pamphlets and papers with offers from the mailbox of the house, the streets are plagued with advertising posters, on television we see bits of movies between the ads ... a real brainwashing.
    They charge us a good amount of money just to have access to the internet (precisely in Spain we have one of the highest prices in the EC) and yet, if we do not use adblockers, they also gorge us with banners, pop-ups and various ads that NO ONE is interested and Google now wants to put us ads, apparently, by force.
    Google has quite a bit of other income and deep down you do not need this unethical practice to make money.
    Of course, a company wants to make money with their product, but there are quite a few other models to do that stuff with spam (pro accounts, merchandising, payment apps, etc).
    That practically all users block ads on the network, should make companies reflect on this system, instead of putting this garbage to us by force.



  • There are many people who like Vivaldi browser but because it has no native ad/tracking blockers they decide to stick with Brave or Opera because they do have pretty decent blocking built in. I think that Vivaldi should concentrate on matching other pioneering browsers options before adding almost useless color features etc. Personally I want my browser blocking everything and I don't care what the Vivaldi founder thinks as he's not paying our bandwidth costs or putting up with our waiting times when these surveillance things are being used. Brave is the pioneer in this ad blocking area both with block and accepting certain ad systems and thus Vivaldi should be taking note and matching or exceeding Brave. I like a lot of the features of Vivaldi but I would give them up if Brave had a better speed-dial than it does and I'd do it just to have the better ad blocking etc.



  • @uhm said in Ad-block Feature Conforming to Better Ads Standards:

    There are many people who like Vivaldi browser but because it has no native ad/tracking blockers they decide to stick with Brave or Opera because they do have pretty decent blocking built in. I think that Vivaldi should concentrate on matching other pioneering browsers options before adding almost useless color features etc. Personally I want my browser blocking everything and I don't care what the Vivaldi founder thinks as he's not paying our bandwidth costs or putting up with our waiting times when these surveillance things are being used. Brave is the pioneer in this ad blocking area both with block and accepting certain ad systems and thus Vivaldi should be taking note and matching or exceeding Brave. I like a lot of the features of Vivaldi but I would give them up if Brave had a better speed-dial than it does and I'd do it just to have the better ad blocking etc.

    Exactly what I was thinking. I personally like Vivaldi's capabilities and features over any other's browser, but with Brave it's a bit different. Brave is showing what they can do with a built-in ad and Javascript blocker in very early stages of the browser. And I too would prefer such capabilities in Vivaldi over the next personalization option since Vivaldi already does offer a lot of those.



  • @jon_tinic said in Ad-block Feature Conforming to Better Ads Standards:

    @uhm said in Ad-block Feature Conforming to Better Ads Standards:

    There are many people who like Vivaldi browser but because it has no native ad/tracking blockers they decide to stick with Brave or Opera because they do have pretty decent blocking built in. I think that Vivaldi should concentrate on matching other pioneering browsers options before adding almost useless color features etc. Personally I want my browser blocking everything and I don't care what the Vivaldi founder thinks as he's not paying our bandwidth costs or putting up with our waiting times when these surveillance things are being used. Brave is the pioneer in this ad blocking area both with block and accepting certain ad systems and thus Vivaldi should be taking note and matching or exceeding Brave. I like a lot of the features of Vivaldi but I would give them up if Brave had a better speed-dial than it does and I'd do it just to have the better ad blocking etc.

    Exactly what I was thinking. I personally like Vivaldi's capabilities and features over any other's browser, but with Brave it's a bit different. Brave is showing what they can do with a built-in ad and Javascript blocker in very early stages of the browser. And I too would prefer such capabilities in Vivaldi over the next personalization option since Vivaldi already does offer a lot of those.

    Well it doesn't make sense to keep bringing out a customization which as a whole a lot of people don't care about like keyboard razor lights when people are actually wanting brave like ad-blocking etc which should be a standard for Vivaldi competing with Brave and Opera. For Vivaldi to truely be the king of browsers it has to match the other browsers unique features and then have all what Vivaldi has on top. Also this picture-in-picture is still way beind Opera as first of all you can manipulate the video (forward, rewind etc in the picture in picture) in Opera and their picture-in-picture works with more websites. I'm surprised Vivaldi havent taken time to sort this out.


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    The latest snapshot now contains an ad blocker that blocks ads on sites known to put misleading or dangerous ads out there.


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