The 4-year challenge
kahukura last edited by kahukura
@Ayespy Wanna share the todays installer to prove you right? :face_savouring_delicious_food: (j/k)
Edit: All Offtopic, sorry for hijacking.
@kahukura Uhm, yeah, sure! Actually, no. But thank you for playing.
I think Vivaldi also lives off criticism. I have used Vivaldi from the beginning and at the beginning I really had enough criticizable points. Even so I have used it as my main navigator because, it offered me features and tools that greatly improved my browsing experience, for the concept itself and for a wonderful community.
Yes, I have used faster browsers, but this has never been an important factor for me, after all the differences in speed are minimal and it is logical that a browser like Chrome, that apart from navigating to dry, without many more features , it's easy for it to take a nanosecond less (and spend more than twice as much on resources) as Vivaldi.
Certain that there is still way ahead in its development to put the things that are still missing, even so it already appears in some magazines and specialized pages as a browser to take into account and some even name it as the best navigator of the existing ones. It is not little for a browser that has 4 years of life, others after 10 years is not even mentioned in comparisons.
Catweazle last edited by Catweazle
Deleted by justified suggestion of @rafiki,Mea culpa
Then - Opera (v12.17) & Firefox
Now - Vivaldi
On the subject of built-in email client being bloat this FUD is as old as Opera Presto.
Couldn't it be made modular? Ie, "check this box if you want email in your nice clean Vivaldi" at install time. Ah well, a guy can dream.
It's funny that the "bloat" and "would be better modular" things are coming out yet again… :lol:
This was said again and again and again and again about Opera with M2.
And Harvaard responded again and again and again and again that:
the "bloat" on your disk was a couple of hundred KB library file
if you didn't use mail then the "bloat" when running was 0% since IT WAS NEVER LOADED INTO MEMORY
if it was made modular THEN the bloat to your system would be a whole bunch of new stuff added to make the browser interface with the mailer - even if you never used mail!
The thing about M2 was that all the UI, networking and filesystem stuff were already in the browser... so it was much more efficient to "build it in"!
I recently noticed that whenever I log in to Gmail to check my mail, the progress loading indicator tells me that about 3.8 Mbytes of data is downloaded every time. I don't keep a load of email. After I have read it, I delete it, and I clear spam regularly. The 3.8 Mbytes of data is not cached, but is downloaded again even if I check my email 10 times a day.
A built in email client, on the other hand, is not wasting any bandwidth. It just downloads what I want to read, and it can be set to check for new mail every 10 minutes (or whatever).
kknight last edited by
My browser history has gone Lynx -> Opera 3.x through 12.18 -> Vivaldi
Four years ago I used Opera 12.18 with Chrome-Opera and Firefox as occasional backups for when it didn't work. Now I mostly use Vivaldi but still use Opera 12.18 for a few things that I don't like the way Vivaldi handles. Otter and IE are occasional (very, very occasional) backups.
I'm a Vivaldi user since slightly less than 2 years, now.
4 years ago I was an Opera user (I kept using Opera 12 until I found Vivaldi).
Before Opera... well, I don't even remember, as I was using Opera since version 5 (maybe some of you remember the top-right-banner-backed version - which got removed with version 6, if memory serves well...).
Probably I was a Netscape 3.x/4.x user before that, but that's speculation.
Oh yeah, I've used NCSA Mosaic the very first year I've seen the Web
4 years ago - probably Chrome.
Now - Firefox.
I've tried lots of browsers and used about 5 of them as primary (in various times), but Vivaldi has never been one of them.
It is a good browser, but I guess it just lacks the selling point for me at the moment, I'll continue keeping an eye on it however
kahukura last edited by
@madiso Contribute to the development and help to make it The browser for everyones need. The more attention it gets, the better it will become.
2015: Opera 10
I am too lazy to make a screenshot.
@cynical13: Tip, Seamonkey, although very useable, has not had an update in some time. For an alternate try PaleMoon
When I fists started on the web I had only Lynx at home. At work we could choose between Netscape (?) or IE3.
Personally I used Lynx/Netscape ate home until I found Opera in the mid/late 90s.
Took to FF as a backup browser as O was not always recognized.
I have been using Vivaldi since its first Alpha version (before the Technical Release) and am still here checking the Snapshots.
Must occasionally use FF for banking as the security Extension my bank wants me to use will not support Chromium browsers that are not chrome
To all the teams and support staff; Great work and some great achievements over the past years!
Good old days - Seamonkey (incl. E-Mail! ;-)):
Transistioning to Vivaldi (still waiting for M3):
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(just posting here for my own reference: coming here from kobi's best posts. Goto the full blog post > facebook meme challenge > wired article. very very nice article to save.)