Mild Reader View or per-tab Theming



  • I'm not sure how I should formulate this. I'm sure there have been a lot of similar requests. But, here let me tentatively call it the Mild Reader Mode.

    I love the Reader Mode but I can't use it often

    1. Because sometimes the necessary navigation is missing. The "next page" and "previous page" buttons, "page 1, 2, 3, 4, . . . " buttons, "previous article" and "next article" buttons are often disabled in the Reader Mode.
    2. Because the images are disabled. Sometimes the images are essential. For example, technical, scientific, or mathematical articles often use diagrams.

    So, what I want is the ability to quickly switch "styles" on the current webpage, which would change the font, font size, font color, and the background color but retain all elements of the page and would change back to normal at a click of a button.


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    @ryofurue I have not yet come across a page that shows Navigation buttons, but it is probably possible.

    The BBC Site does show pictures in Reader Mode.

    Set a simple keyboard shortcut like Ctrl+R to toggle Reader View on/off.



  • @ryofurue I noticed that too, but it should be no problem generally. You can use Vivaldi's fastforward/next button alternatively, which should be available/active on articles with multiple pages.

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    Alternatively you can open the quick commands and trigger "fast forward" from there. example article



  • Hi @Pesala,

    @Pesala said in Mild Reader View or per-tab Theming:

    @ryofurue I have not yet come across a page that shows Navigation buttons, but it is probably possible.

    Why do you doubt my words? Why "probably possible"? There are such sites:

    https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/fascinating-words-for-colors-and-the-battle-of-magenta
    http://labaq.com/archives/51904649.html
    https://business.nikkeibp.co.jp/atcl/opinion/15/271898/010700007/

    (For the last one, you might need to subscribe (free-of-charge but requires the ability to read and write Japanese).) All these webpages lose the "next page" or "next article" buttons in the Reader Mode.

    The BBC Site does show pictures in Reader Mode.

    You are right! On the other hand, this BBC page

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/46784200

    loses images in the Reader Mode! Is this a bug or is there something wrong in my settings?

    Set a simple keyboard shortcut like Ctrl+R to toggle Reader View on/off.

    Thanks. But, that's not the issue we are discussing, right?


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    @ryofurue said in Mild Reader View or per-tab Theming:

    There are such sites:

    • None of them show navigation buttons in Reader View.
    • Images show on some BBC pages, but not on others.
    • My point is that it depends on how the web page is coded, so perhaps not something that can easily be fixed by Vivaldi
    • The shortcut lets you quickly switch off reader view to navigate to the next article. (Fast Forward is not that reliable either).


  • @luetage said in Mild Reader View or per-tab Theming:

    @ryofurue I noticed that too, but it should be no problem generally. You can use Vivaldi's fastforward/next button alternatively, which should be available/active on articles with multiple pages.

    Thanks for the great idea! The fastforward button definitely works!

    But the "previous article" isn't captured by the Rewind button. It tries to go back the history, as it should!

    Also, what about the numbered links? As I said, you sometimes see a numbered page navigation. When you want to go back to page 2 of a 6-page article (I sometimes do this), the Fastforward or Rewind doesn't work. If you have sequentially read the article, you can hit the back button a few times to go back to page 2, but I sometimes jump between pages. (I'm not making this up.)

    So,

    it should be no problem generally

    is an overstatement. The Fastforward button is a workaround for many cases.



  • @ryofurue You misunderstand the functionality of the rewind button. It's not the opposite of the fastforward button. It doesn't go back once independent from history, but instead goes to the first page visited on the domain in current history. In my opinion the name rewind is quite correct, while fastforward is completely misleading. It should instead be called next – and it's already named that way in the Vivaldi code – because it's mostly used to go to a page not yet present in history – like the next page in an article or topic.

    And yeah, it doesn't cover all cases. Personally I don't mind that, it's a matter of taste. The reading mode hasn't really come a long way from it's Firefox roots. I don't think the Vivaldi devs have put all too much work into the open source original yet and are pretty much just using what already existed. The problem is that various browsers (like Brave) have done improvements to the exact same source, but these updates are proprietary and haven't been shared back to the base. It's sad really, and it would be even more sad if Vivaldi improved it and didn't share back either.


 

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