Tweak new tab opening and closing behavior in Vivaldi


  • Community Manager

    If you use a lot of tabs, the position of new tabs and the shift of focus after closing an active tab become crucial. Let’s take a look at how you can tweak tab opening and closing behavior in Vivaldi for smoother browsing.

    Click here to see the full blog post


  • Vivaldi Translator

    Nice post Olga !!!


  • Community Manager

    @cqoicebordel: Wish I could take the credit 😜 Too many of us contribute to any given blog post, it's true teamwork 😊



  • πŸ––
    Nice video about keeping tabs on Vivaldi


  • Vivaldi Translator

    @olgaa: Really, the whole team was behind the keyboard ? πŸ™‚ 😁



  • What relation do I get for middle click on links, to open link in new background tab? (I'd prefer parent-child, btw)



  • When you browse the web, you probably want the tabs related to a specific search to stick close together. At least this is what we’ve assumed when picking our default settings.

    I guess I am one of the unassumed who thinks the default newtab behaviour is completely unintuitive.



  • One anomaly:

    • If I use a mouse gesture (down, right) to open a new background tab, it opens as the last tab
    • If I use a mouse gesture (up, right) to open a new tab, it opens after the active tab

    I think this is a bug because Ctrl+Click on a link opens the tab in the background next to the active tab. New Tab position is set to "After related tabs."



  • @LeBaux Probably not the only one, but if other browsers don't do this, users who are more accustomed to the behaviour in Firefox or Chrome, etc., will find the behaviour unintuitive.

    I see this word used frequently, but I think one needs to apply more logical reasoning than intuition to decide what the most useful default behaviour should be.

    I am sure that the developers used reasoned discussion before deciding on the default setting.

    Intuitive: Obtained through intuition rather than from reasoning or observation (WordWeb)


  • Community Manager

    @cqoicebordel: More people than you can imagine πŸ˜€


  • Community Manager

    @chas4: I like it too. @jane.n did that. See @cqoicebordel?!



  • The Tabs page has to be Vivaldi's most mind-bending preferences page of all. I'm glad the tab stack issue, which was around for well over a year, was finally resolved in the second half of this year, since it wreaked havoc with several aspects of this topic.



  • Since you know about parent, child and sibling tabs, you should know how it can be useful to visualise them as a tree.

    The following extension provides its features in a web panel:
    https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/15332/tree-tabs

    It works, but having the existing Vertical tabs indent would be preferable.

    As it stands, i wouldn't want to use a different browser anymore.
    I love Vivaldi and the work that's gone to it.



  • @LeBaux said in Tweak new tab opening and closing behavior in Vivaldi:

    When you browse the web, you probably want the tabs related to a specific search to stick close together. At least this is what we’ve assumed when picking our default settings.

    I guess I am one of the unassumed who thinks the default newtab behaviour is completely unintuitive.

    Count me in. I don't fully understand the logic especially when you are not able to see the relation between the tabs.

    A tab I'm opening today as a "child" might live on for days and weeks while I'm closing other childs and/or parents. Additionally I'm moving these surviving tabs around and probably stack it to an existing stack.

    Am I right that applying this "related logic" to such a grown tab landscape only can give erratic results when opening new tabs?



  • The behavior I find the most intuitive was "Open other tabs next to current one - Change opening order" on Firefox with TabMixPlus. Say I have the tabs [a][b][c][d]; [b] and [c] was opened from [a] five minutes (or an hour) ago, so they are related, but I did other things and changed tabs after that. Now if I open new tabs from [a] in succession, I would get the following:

    [a][1][2][3][b][c][d]

    With Vivaldi's default option ("After related tabs"), however, I get the following:

    [a][b][c][1][2][3][d]

    I find this unintuitive because in my mind [a], [b], [c] are no longer related; I don't remember which tab was opened from what previously, and there isn't any visual indication that they are grouped this way either. When I open a new tab from [a], I expect it to be next to it, so I can Ctrl+Tab to it immediately. But with the default behavior, not only it is not next to it, but I have no idea where it will end up and how many times I will have to Ctrl+Tab to reach it. Will it open after [a]? After [b]? After [c]? Were they related? Who knows?

    To imitate TabMixPlus's option, I just select the "After Active Tab" option, and click on them in the reverse order ([3],[2],[1]) to open them in the actual order I want. This is what I did on old Opera as well, however, I wish there was on option to replicate TabMixPlus's behavior on Vivaldi. I think that would be much more intuitive than the current implementation of "After related tabs". And if that option will be retained as is, I think some visual indication is necessary; e.g. I think Internet Explorer used to color tabs to indicate that they are related. In its current form, it just leads to unpredictable and confusing behavior: it is hard to guess where the new tab will end up.


  • Community Manager

    @lebaux: Just change it to what feels intuitive to you, you can do that in Vivaldi 😍


  • Community Manager

    @goedl: It can get confusing in some cases, but it works really well in others. It just depends on your typical workflow. Do change the default settings if they don't work for you. The most important thing is that the settings work for you, not what works for someone else.


  • Community Manager

    @pesala: That's quite possible. Maybe report it as a bug, so that the devs can take a look?



  • @OlgaA Done:

    (VB-47266) Mouse Gesture Opens Link as the Last Tab not After Related Tabs



  • When I open lots of tabs as links from one site and I close (or minimize) the first of them, I'd like to go to the second one, not the parent tab. Then the 3rd, 4th etc. When I close/minimize all of the children, I'd like to see the parent tab.


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