Vivaldi’s forum has been updated
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@Pesala Oh, I didn't notice this one before. Poor discoverability
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@ROTFL That's on purpose. They don't want people to check who downvoted them, therefore the cursor remains default when hovering the number. I made the cursor a pointer in the forum extension for this reason. Imo the feature should be disabled, or the cursor should be fixed. But yeah, it's not that important.
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@Quinca71 It's a problem with accuracy. If you move your cursor too rapidly and it "escapes" the Recent button area, you land on the Features button, which opens a sub-menu immediately, covering the button that you intended to click. This Features menu seems to be new - previously there was no sub-menus there and thus the issue was not occurring.
The Recent button has a "dead" (non-clickable) area of about 5px at the top, so there's no point to aim at the top of that button anyway. But if you move your cursor around quickly (and you've got to have a "quick" cursor when you use more than one monitor, like @Pesala), then it's easy to miss the right button. You can always correct the cursor position, but the sub-menu makes it harder...
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@pafflick I reported it as a bug:
(586726277) Top Menus: Features, News, help, Community, About, obstruct Links in Blue Navigation Bar
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@Quinca71 The problem can occur when moving the mouse cursor down from the Bookmarks Bar, or up from the page.
The only way to avoid it is to slow down and take more care. If it was redesigned better, e.g. by showing the menus only on click not on hover the problem would disappear.
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@Quinca71 More than enough explanation was given. If you don't understand it, and don't experience the problem yourself, just let it go. I reported the issue already.
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@Quinca71 That's not the issue. I didn't think about it either, since 1) I don't use the bookmarks bar and 2) even if I do use it (usually to test something), I've placed it on the bottom. But @Pesala has a good point that when you move your cursor down, from the bookmarks bar (placed on top) and go to one of the navigation links (like eg. Unread or Recent), you have to move the cursor above one of the new menus (like eg. Features) which instantly open their sub-menus, covering the link that you actually intended to click.
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@pafflick Even if you don't use the bookmarks bar, surely you use the tab bar and/or the address bar? So again, on moving the cursor down to click on Recent, the menu can easily open.
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@Pesala True, but I use it to switch to other tabs, hence the issue doesn't occur to me. I don't use the address bar either when I'm browsing the forums, so I haven't had the issue so far, since the update...
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@Quinca71 thanks for asking and @Pesala for helping out in such great details.
In case you want to try it out, don’t hesitate to block a test user I created called @test-12345@Quinca71 said in Vivaldi’s forum has been updated:
@Pesala said in Vivaldi’s forum has been updated:
I noticed, since the update, that I frequently open the Features menu when I go to click the Recent threads link.
Did no one answer? Resolved?
I don't know if I have understood, but I searched follow your steps and did the path: Categories > Vivaldi Browser > Features Requested and clicked on the subcategories Adress Bar, Bookmarks and Mobile. Al the three ones opened normally, nothing led me to Recent.Fearing I have did a nonsense action, but not leaving to risk something, for I don't stand continue seeing you without at least a response, I overcome the fear of the ridicule, and courageously, inform what I did.
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Sorry about that. How do you suggest we do it better? I’m not sure nodeBB allows flexible margins...
@LonM said in Vivaldi’s forum has been updated:
I notice that there is now a min width for the chat page. this makes it difficult to use in a narrow panel as the right half of the messages get cut off:
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@gaelle I just tried it just now, and maybe you've updated the forum since I last posted that, as it now looks correct in a narrow panel:
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@LonM thanks for sharing this update. Indeed new fixes were released yesterday
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I see the forum search can now match exactly the words you put in where previously it would search everything that had one of your search terms. This is much better now!
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The unwanted menu is a constant irritation.
For example:
Close Tab:
Move Cursor to Unread:
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@Pesala said in Vivaldi’s forum has been updated:
The unwanted menu is a constant irritation.
It's because of this:
#vivaldimenu .hov {padding-bottom: 15px;}
The code has 2 problems. First of all it makes overshooting easy, secondly it reduces the hit area of submenu items below it (eg recent doesn't trigger full height).Setting the padding-bottom to 0px solves both problems.
edit: it's not that easy it seems, as pointed out correctly by @sjudenim, the padding is needed to reach the menu. If there is no padding, the menu disappears… I guess that's something the Vivaldi devs are going to enjoy fixing -
@luetage said in Vivaldi’s forum has been updated:
If there is no padding, the menu disappears…
It does not if you set up this:
#vivaldimenu li.hov ul {top: 30px !important;}
But what difference does this:#vivaldimenu .hov {padding-bottom: 0px !important;}
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The positioning of the User Information when clicking on an icon in the reply to a post shows the wrong user's info, and is sometime a long way out of position. From this thread when clicking on Ayespy's icon in his reply to LonM.
Or click the icons of @gaelle and @pafflick above in their replies to luetage.
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That's not really a fix either as it only serves to exacerbate the inconsistency of the menus.
Here you can see how the menus do not line up with one another (and I personally don't like the looks of them overlapping the header)
On top of that, I find the hover menus to not be intuitive because they do not have an active state while falling under 2 and sometimes 3 header buttons.
I've tried to address these issues in my theme with callouts
:before
the menu but this too is not perfect. The:before
section does overlap the navbar slightly to keep the menus open which will have false triggers for the navbar (hasn't really happened to me but the possibility is certainly there)