Number of vivaldi.exe processes



  • I'm counting one vivaldi.exe process per tab plus one. I wonder how is Windows going to cope with that once I have hundreds of tabs opened? Yes I often end up with a few hundreds of them tabs :) Though I guess it could be nice if one can tell how much CPU each tab is using thus when CPU is heating up we could close the infringing tabs.



  • So far so good, seems as long as you have enough RAM everything will work out fine ;)



  • In fact there are processes for each tab, for each extension, two processes for browser itself and GPU renderer process. You can check it in the Tools\Task Manager.

    For me vivaldi slows down at 15-20 tabs and that sucks, because I almost never have less than 20-30 tabs in opera12 with no slowness if all sites are behaving well, which is more often not the case…



  • @kryksyh:

    In fact there are processes for each tab, for each extension, two processes for browser itself and GPU renderer process. You can check it in the Tools\Task Manager.

    For me vivaldi slows down at 15-20 tabs and that sucks, because I almost never have less than 20-30 tabs in opera12 with no slowness if all sites are behaving well, which is more often not the case…

    This is a standard thing for Chromium based browsers. Chrome and Chropera act the same way. I am hoping/guessing that the slowdown you described will go away after customization. I am currently using Chropera as my main browser and routinely have 40+ tabs open with no slowdowns. I have 16 GB of RAM though. Might be different if you are trying to have that many tabs with 2GB of RAM.
    In theory, this shoud be a more robust way to handle many tabs. In my case Firefox (a single process app) was getting ridiculously slow with that many tabs.



  • This is a standard thing for Chromium based browsers.
    Yep. I never tried open that many tabs in other chrome based browsers, none of them have vertical tabs and horizontal layout became unusable for me faster than browser became slow :)
    But indeed slowness of vivaldi is somewhere in its code, not just in the fact that it have lots of processes, and it surely can be optimized.



  • Yes, I would love to see the Vivaldi team do the trick of managing to make it possible to smoothly work with a larger number of tabs (to me that's 60 to maybe 120) just as many of us became used to having worked with Presto Opera.
    From one side I understand that e.g. for stability and security reasons each tab having its own process (theoretically) should be advantageous but looking at how e.g. Chrome/Chromium-based browsers actually perform, when I show my common surf behavior by working with a larger number of tabs, I do notice that they perform worse than Presto Opera in its days when its development was actually still ongoing. (machines I tested Vivaldi on: i5,16GB & i7,8GB).
    Anyhow - I really like what I got to see so far from what is just a technical preview version atm.



  • @Slion said in Number of vivaldi.exe processes:

    I'm counting one vivaldi.exe process per tab plus one.

    Seems you are lucky :stuck_out_tongue:. If I close Vivaldi, and reopen (1 tab: this forum), it uses EIGHT processes. Earlier this day, it was five or six processes. And they used a lot of memory. After clearing the cache, the eight processes still take 348 MB. Not at all what should be expected from a lean and mean browser. BTW: Opera 12 uses 99 MB right after start (no tabs).



  • @Opera12 I guess that some of those extra processes come from extensions (assuming that you have some)... Did you try disabling them to see if it affects the memory usage?



  • I don't know why I need four Vivalid.exe processes for one tab and no extensions, but I think the way to go is to improve the Session Manager.

    With at least one process per tab, Vivaldi is always going to be more resource hungry than Opera Presto. It's not a problem as long has the user has plenty of RAM, but better session management could reduce a lot of problems caused by tab bloat.

    I can only read one page at a time, so it beats me why people need to have 100 tabs open at once. What's so hard about reopening a saved session when you need it, instead of keeping all those tabs open just in case?


  • Vivaldi Translator

    Habits I guess.

    My own habits since old days:
    "Read It Later" like extension. No, send tabs/links as bookmarks.
    Session Management. No, send tabs/links as bookmarks.
    More than 5 tabs. No, send tabs/links tabs as bookmarks.

    Results:
    Lost opened every update/upgrade. Never happen.
    Session lost every update/upgrade. Never happen. I don't have real session to begin with.
    Memory spike. Never happen. I use more than 10+ extensions running, btw.
    CPU spike, happen on playing multimedia site or just badly written. Even only 1 tab open in any browsers with no extensions.

    I never lost bookmarks file or got broken bookmarks file even if the applications (browsers) was badly coded.

    Opening a lot of tabs is like standing on the rock on sea side and bet hurricane won't flip you out. Then blame authority to not try to remind you.

    Comparing Presto vs Blink, is like comparing Apple vs Watermelon.
    Apple = Small & rather tough inside out.
    Watermelon = Big. Tough outside, squishy inside.


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