Text Wrap / Text Reflow
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I just realized this feature is tagged as being in Progress.
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the search shows that there were dozens of these topics-queries of the most complex "Wrap-text" function. the earliest is 14 Dec 2018. I.e. it has been almost 5 years. These topics have been drying up in the archive for a long time. I recently discussed with Representative @Shpankov. The answer is Opera 's patented technology .
But I didn't know that the first requests appeared 5 years ago.
But what is there to patent ? Wrap is a built-in function in CSS -- Flexbox --- display:flex; , flex-wrap: wrap;
This also works on mobile.
An example from a PC for Devtools. But it is clear that everyone is asking for this feature for the mobile version.
Is it really forbidden to repeat it?
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@sphera Why does only Opera browser provide it? Granted, I haven’t looked at other mobile browsers in a long time, but I’m not aware of any which do wrap properly.
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Ok, so why don’t Chrome, Firefox, and Safari do it? It’s a pretty obvious feature.
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Now there is a scale in Vivaldi. Let's analyze it. Now we know how it works. The browser just scales all the elements of the page -- everything is absolutely ! Including spaces, intervals and the page itself. And it does not matter that the page ceases to fit into the browser screen.
What is the benefit to the reader if he sees only part of the page? I have checked now on various forums -- this function, which the Vivaldi team has been developing for a long time, made efforts, spent a lot of time -- it is no different from the built-in Android (???) functions -- "2 fingers"
What is the smallest element of the page ? -- TEXT ! Only text is the reason for scaling. There are no icon-sized pictures on the pages, they ended in the 90s. It is necessary to start developing the scale of the page from the text, and not everything in a row that is on the page. %If the text is not readable, then it should be increased by 300%. And what happens to a page if everything on it (pictures, intervals) is increased by 300%?
The new zoom function is a useless function - the user has it all as soon as he received a mobile phone. -
if the topic is about Text-Wrap, then here is a screenshot. I agree, this is a rare case - a long line.
there are really difficult cases -- this line is 3 times longer than in the photo.
But I think Vivaldi programmers will be able to write a complex function -- cut a string anywhere. And it's better not in any, but strictly according to the size of the phone screen. I don't need the text that's behind the screen. On any scale.
I don't think it's hard.
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forum.ru-board.com -- the forum is ancient, from the 2000s (builded on text-files). Here on forum.vivaldi.net-- Text Wrap works across the entire range (but it doesn't track screen zoom changes). But on other forums, her behavior is changing. After 170%, it stops working and the text goes off the phone screen. Different behavior at different scales, on different forums :).
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@sphera said in Text Wrap / Text Reflow:
forum.ru-board.com -- the forum is ancient, from the 2000s (builded on text-files). Here on forum.vivaldi.net-- Text Wrap works across the entire range. But on other forums, her behavior is changing. After 170%, it stops working and the text goes off the phone screen. Different behavior at different scales, on different forums :).
Try opening the first link with Opera mobile and increase the zoom factor, and you will find that the result is fantastic compared to Vivaldi mobile (and all other mobile browsers).
Note.
If you haven't noticed, this section is for the Vivaldi mobile feature request -
yes, Opera will be cooler. It shows many sites better than Vivaldi . Without having to go into the settings. But I found a page that she also can't display correctly.
If you haven 't noticed , then read my message again . There is an example, with a picture, where the Text-Wrap function works better in Developer Tools than in Opera Mobile. It cuts a string of any length for any screens. And without any patents. This is from desktop . It is not difficult, and for free, to transfer this from Chromium Windows to Chromium Android. Chromium is still an open project.
I will translate for you a picture from this Russian forum -- this line describes the icon in base64 format. I believe that this is directly related to the Chromium project. Details from the local @Capushon
If this post from the old forum will be displayed Vivaldi correctly, then this feature has been improved. And Opera Mobile will not be able to demand anything. On the contrary, she will pay for the Vivaldi patent herself.
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I've done some experimenting. On some websites, vivaldi can handle this perfectly fine.
e.g. On theguardian.com if I go to menu > default zoom, it works perfectly. It resizes to the column width of the portrait screen.
On other sites, especially those that use desktop mode, it does absolutely nothing, or only works as if it was doing pinch to zoom.
So the feature seems to be there, it just needs a bit of coercing to make it work right.
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@LonM How is the feature there? The point of wrap/reflow is to have the text automatically wrap when you zoom. This doesn’t work, because the feature is not implemented. Even on Guardian articles it doesn’t work. And you need this feature the most on old‐school pages without mobile layout, so… I don’t see your point.
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@luetage I mean there's a zoom slider in vivaldi android which works like I'd expect on desktop, and when I'm on certain pages, I can drag the slider and the font size changes without words slipping out of the visible area.
That tells me there's no technical or legal barriers preventing reflow (as suggested earlier in this thread). What's needed is to figure out what those pages, where it works, are doing, and to try and replicate that.
There was some bookmarklet code posted earlier, but that's not helpful, so these sites where reflow works right must be doing something else. I'm just wondering what it is, and if it might be easy to copy and use for this feature to put up the right "guardrails" around the visible area.
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Instead of the text wrapping and extension support, we get bloated games like vivaldia in the browser.
Great progress and added value...
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Is there some information on the current state of this featur request?
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@bariton said in Text Wrap / Text Reflow:
Is there some information on the current state of this featur request?
I would like to know if there is any hope. -
@summoner That’s completely unrelated. None of the people working on browser features worked on the game. Just like Vivaldia 1 it was created by a different company, Porcelain Fortress.
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@Zalex108 I see, "in progress" sound promising. A bit vague though
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I 100 percent agree. It would really help and improve everyone's experience and productivity. Not sure why it's not been implemented yet.
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@vivandroid Because it has to be written from scratch, and is really, really difficult.
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Yes, I confirm that theguardian.com is working. And it works correctly in the entire range , up to 300% . You can take the structure of theguardian.com as a sample.
It's easy to see the result on bolshoyvopros.ru - there are frames around the questions. It can be seen that scaling with wrap works up to exactly 140%. A larger percentage no longer takes into account the screen size.
it works on this forum too, but only up to 150% . ????
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0" />
This line is everywhere, absolutely on all sites. But here it has some problems with writing. And only Opera can read it.