Any word on M3? (internal mail client)

schreck

Xmas is near, have some M3rcy then!

kahukura

It would be pure coincidence when V3 and M3 are released together for Christmas.

lamarca

@kahukura Whoa ...... that's one of the year best reply >)

saudiqbal

Since 2.9 is out hopefully V3 beta comes out soon with M3 unless there is 2.9.1 :face_with_stuck-out_tongue_winking_eye:

lamarca

@saudiqbal said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):

...... unless there is 2.9.1

There you are:) We have the Minor updates

@saudiqbal Another one that thinks the versions number is a regular decimal number? Do you remember 1.15/1.16? There doesn't need to be (and cannot be) 2.9.1 — but 2.10 can.

lamarca

@potmeklecbohdan

Vivaldi or any Chromium derivative version has 4 parts: MAJOR.MINOR.BUILD.PATCH.

Version Number

kahukura

@potmeklecbohdan I request the next version to be named by the cross-sum of the numbers. 2+1+0 = V3 again! :face_with_stuck-out_tongue:

kahukura

Basically the next version is will be a conspiracy.

Cheat Sheet for Commands: now DIN A3 size
Always B3 to change the Browser to your liking
Still haven't found what we are looking for? F3
Makes certainly some headlines: <H3>..<H3>
Great Expectations: M3
Version number logical sequence: V3
Best Choice/Best Internet Suite/Best Community: 3X
Might still be running on older Hardware such as Z3

Makes 8 unique letters multiplied by 3 = 24 which is the reverse of 42

So let's wait what the next Snapshot will have included for us.

lamarca

What I most like is the sequence.
This is the result of working with z/OS :p

Hadden89

@kahukura And... the nasty Manifest V3 which will come WIR(tm)

schreck

https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/4033/vivaldi-m3-mail-client-when?page=1

congratulations to me, 5 years waiting!

saudiqbal

Its February and still no V3!

@saudiqbal And? What do we do with that? I’m waiting for many other things (that I even forgot most of them) and can do so without the noise…

Wait, you expect V3 now? Team_Vivaldi can you please raise the major version number?

jumpsq

Thanks to you two I finally understood the versioning. Back then, I expected the initial release and later V2 to include M3, but of course it could not be like this. Simple methodology.

V3 → M3, M3 > M2.

I'll happily wait until it's done, even if it's another year. M2 is lacking some features like support for encryption, which makes me switch for certain tasks, but it still is working like a charm. I have to support asking for M3 though - just as for other requests, there has to be some constant noise to be heard. M3 is certainly a top priority already, but I would really rather have resources put there than in an iOS version (and I fully understand those who disagree and on the other hand try to get a working iOS version or both).

saudiqbal

Its been 5 years now, even Gmail was out of beta in 5 years.

Ayespy

@saudiqbal GMail, with hundreds of developers, was out of beta in five years.

And now M3 must play nice with it, which is nearly impossible, (because it does nothing standardly) and doubtless one of the worst stumbling blocks.

jon

It is frustrating to not be able to show you what we are building. I am so excited to show you and it is getting closer. I continue to use M3 myself and some other cool stuff we are working on. There are still things to work on and we continue to polish what we got.

Cheers,
Jon.

TimB79

@jon said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):

It is frustrating to not be able to show you what we are building. I am so excited to show you and it is getting closer. I continue to use M3 myself and some other cool stuff we are working on.

Hello @jon, Hello all,

I found vivaldi and my new hope for Opera Mail (M2) in an updated form today. That is great!
So, I am really happy to have found it.

Before I found this, I made a long and detailed post on Opera forums. About why I love Opera Mail, why I still use Opera Mail and why Opera Mail is such a great Mail Client.
Find it here:
https://forums.opera.com/topic/38208/opera-mail-is-still-great-continue-development-would-be-gorgeous/13

Now I found vivaldi and I read about your plans for M3 as "updated" M2. Beside many old forum posts, I did not find any real information about your M3 plans.
When switching from M2 to M3, when time arrives and you will release it, there are some "must have" features to make the switch. I also have questions about migration.
Do I find any content about M3 where I can read already what M3 is capable of (and what it is lacking)?

My most important points would be:

possibility to transfer all Email Accounts and all Emails (without losing anything!) from M2 to M3 will be available?
Many of my emails use opera Mail "labels". Labels in Opera Mail are great! Can also "labels" be transferred from M2 to M3?
Will be rules for Mail labels available as in M2? Very great is the "RegEx" ability. RegEx on different Mail parts and combine RegEx rules with AND/OR same as M2 do. It's a great M2 feature.
I think all default Email Client features like printing mails, save mails, spell checker when writing emails, email signature per email account, IMAP Settings, IMAP folders, email formatting, settings if email should be saved offline or not, etc.... will be available also. Nothing fancy, but the M2 features would be great.
Also fast text search through all emails, like M2 do so well.

The great thing about M2 is, how incredible fast it is. RegEx rules can be very, very, very complex and big and still it is labeling my very, very big email account so fast.
Is there any content or road map where we can read about these things?

I am very happy to found vivaldi and look forward to a great M3 Email Client, which will be great as M2 and integrated in a browser again! Last thing for me is not must-have, but I know that many old Opera user love to have Email and Browser again in one Application.

There are still things to work on and we continue to polish what we got.

For me... I do not need it polished. I just need M2. And some small enhancements (helper for quoting, better html formatting, enhanced and/or-connection in label rules) and very minor bugfixes would be just enough.

Best regards
Tim

Blackbird

@TimB79 said in Any word on M3? (internal mail client):

... For me... I do not need it polished. I just need M2. And some small enhancements (helper for quoting, better html formatting, enhanced and/or-connection in label rules) and very minor bugfixes would be just enough. ...

"Polish" can mean a lot of different things to different people. Given that there are many eMail service providers, there are a lot of potential idiosyncrasies in those eMail servers. Even though the protocols for eMail are well-established, there's a lot of room for variation in how different services process their message flow, the features they offer, and the assumptions they make about visiting eMail browsers. The consequence of not 'getting it right' in terms of "polish" for an eMail browser can range from lost messages or erratic service to merely not being able to reliably provide certain 'creature comforts' in the browser. The nature and general importance of user eMails pretty much demand that everything be 'gotten right' before launching a new browser into the world.