Where to install Linux - on VM or HD?


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    Not sure if this is the right place. Are most Linux installs done in a virtual machine or on a clean HDD/SSD?
    I ask because I have always had mine in a VM but there is that dreaded response lag in everything. Mouse, video, page load, etc. I doubt if it's due to me running Linux Mint v19 (Tara). Maybe it's because I don't use hardware acceleration in the virtual machine. I also have mine in a Virtual Box and not VMWare.

    Take mercy on me. I'm a relative newbie. Dabbled in the past. Getting more serious now.
    FWIW, Tara (v19) is more responsive than what I had in the past (Rebecca).


    modedit changed title; moved thread to Linux forum


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    @para-noid I partition an HDD or SSD on an already-functioning Windows system and install it on an empty partition. This makes it dual-boot (Linux and Windows). I don't run any "systems within systems."

    In the alternative, one can simply install it on any empty disk, and just have Linux and nothing else.



  • @para-noid said in Hope this is right place!:

    Are most Linux installs done in a virtual machine or on a clean HDD/SSD?

    Pls help me understand your question. Are you asking about Linux installations per se [ie, the operating system itself], or [given this is a Vivaldi forum], are you asking about Vivaldi installations within a Linux environment [which itself then might be "on-metal", or "in VM"]?

    Hence, when you mention "there is that dreaded response lag in everything. Mouse, video, page load, etc", i cannot tell if you are exclusively referring to Vivaldi being sluggish in your Linux VM, or if you mean that the Linux OS itself is sluggish because it's only in a VM.

    In case it helps; FYI:

    I left Win7 for total fulltime Linux in 2014, but began my early Linux explorations in Dec 2013 [ie, when still running Win7]... ie, back then i taught myself about virtual machines, so i could then make three or so VMs created from some candidate Linux ISOs i'd downloaded [from memory they were Ubuntu Unity, Mint Cinnamon, & Xubuntu]. These interested me enough in Linux to "switch me on" to the idea of a fascinating very viable possible alternative for me to my erstwhile Windows [>20 years]. Within a short time i was so captivated that i next decided to learn about dual-booting, & thence shrank my Win7 partition then created appropriate new partitions for, then installed Mint KDE in, the remaining space. Within very little time i was so in love with KDE that every time i had to boot back into Win7 it was with heavy heart, & a feeling of restriction & oppression. Eventually i realised that Linux simply beat Windows for me in every way, so i converted both my machines to single-boot Linux.

    Dual-boot / multi-boot gives you advantages like letting your Linux/es directly access the full hardware resources of your pc, hence will always [IMO] give you better performance than from within a VM. However [IMO] the big disadvantage of dual-boot is that each time you are in one OS & need/want to use the other, you have the tedium & disruption of needing to save & close your docs, do the reboot, then open all your docs & pgms again.

    Inversely, VMs will be somewhat slower / laggier in operation [including their pgms, ie, including V] than if they were "on-metal" [though you can somewhat mitigate this (dependent on your hardware specs) by allocating more cpus & RAM to them]. They have the [IMO] huge advantage over dual-boot though by allowing you to access one or several other OS's whilst still booted into your normal OS... no disruption.

    My Tower [bought in 2015 with specs deliberately organised to support this] runs single-boot Linux [currently Manjaro KDE], with atm 33 VMs... of which sometimes i run up to 4 simultaneously, but mainly only 1 or 2 at once. Those VMs comprise both Linux & Windoze, & are a wonderful way to explore & teach myself about other systems, + test new [to me] software safely before i might later commit to installing it "for real" in my real Linux OS. In the case of Windoze, their VMs allow me to keep accessing my licenced old XP, Win7 & Win10 with their various pgms [in the case of proprietary ones i've not replicated with Linux alternatives... these days that hardly ever arises, hence i hardly ever need/want to run these Windoze VMs].

    I have Vivaldi-Snapshot &/or Vivaldi-Stable installed in many of those VMs. Unambiguously V is laggier in these VMs than "for real", but not unbearably so.

    Not understanding exactly what you wanted to know, i waffled on a lot here, but in the hope you can extract something from my story relevant to your needs.


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    On my Windows developer workstation i use different Linuxes (Mint, Debian, Ubuntu) on VirtualBox VM. Unfortunately HWA fails on Linux guest (bad Virtualbox driver implementation).


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    @Steffie I was speaking about a Linux install. Not a Vivaldi install.

    @Gwen-Dragon Thanks for moving this thread. I wasn't sure where to post.


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    To any and all who respond...A Big "Thank You"!



  • Good luck to you, & i really hope you get a lot of fun, stimulation & productivity along your Linux journey.

    Linux rulz.

    bigsmile


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