So I uninstalled Vivaldi again...
So I was trying Vivaldi again... everything was fine, sadly it doesn't remotely feels like Opera yet... and I rebooted my computer and a popup came up in the taskbar: "Update Vivaldi."
Goodbye Vivaldi! if you want to have your updater working on my computer while your program is not even started, you don't belong on my computer!
@mishotaki I can understand why someone might not want any autoupdater running, what I cannot understand is why anyone would post only to say that they had uninstalled Vivaldi for that reason without even asking if it can be disabled.
Since you already uninstalled it, I guess you will never know if Settings, Updates, and disabling "Notify about updates," would fix the problem.
The process is activated/deactivated even without restarting Vivaldi.
Specs: AMD A10-6800K, 8 Gb on Win 10 64-bit build 17134.320 • Snapshot 2.1.1332.4 (64-bit)
duarte.framos last edited by duarte.framos
While I never uninstalled over it, I also find this to be an annoyance.
I don't like it when applications add stuff to startup without my express permission. I also don't like random stuff I might not need slowing down the whole computer at every startup process.
This should not be active by default, at least when installing as standalone.
@duarte-framos It was always a contentious issue on My Opera with a range of views:
- Updates should install silently to make sure all users have the latest and most secure version
- Users should always be informed of available updates, but they won't install until they restart the browser
- Users can decline updates when informed, and won't be notified again unless they do a manual check for updates
- Users can disable update notifications and check manually if/when they wish to do so.
I favour option three as the default. Users should always be told, but admins and expert users should be able to change the setting to option four so that no updates are ever installed without testing them first on a PC that does not affect the running of their business.
Opera 12.18 offers three options:–
duarte.framos last edited by duarte.framos
@pesala I don't have an issue with notifications about new versions at all. I actually encourage being notified about them, and always try to run the latest stable version available.
My issue is that I don't think it needs an extra application for this, nor an additional process running in the background, even less a startup entry.
Most other applications I use are portable and can notify of updates without requiring any of the three. They just check at application startup if an update is available, and let me decide what to do about it without requiring additional resources or a constant background process. That should be enough for Vivaldi too.
@duarte-framos You can't get notifications unless the update process runs in the background and polls the update server at least once every 24 hours - that is, unless updates are available only when you pro-actively ask your browser to check.
@ayespy Can't the browser just poll the update server when the browser starts up? How does Google chrome manage to stay up to date?
Didn't notice that there's a background process, I recall that vivaldi checks for updates when browser starts in the early days.
I'd suggest change this as default behavior, or even discard this approach, browser is our daily use program, I don't think we need immediate update, just check for update when the browser start, download update in the background, and notify user to install right now or on closing browser, this is much better user experience IMO.
@browseruser A Chrome process runs continually in the background and updates Chrome even when it's not open.
@pesala Excepting "C:\program files\vivaldi\application\2.1.1332.4\installer\chrmstp.exe" which runs at logon and must be manually removed!
Catweazle last edited by Catweazle
Almost all the browsers that I have tested have their update agent running independent of the browser and not all can be disabled as it can be done in Vivaldi or warn if there is an update, just update silently.
This can be a problem if you have several browsers installed, all with the Update running, without the user noticing, unnecessarily using resources and bandwidth.
This is why I always deactivate it in the browsers I have, either in the corresponding configuration or remove them from the Start with the Task Manager, if the browser does not offer this option.
It is very easy to look from time to time in the browser menu, if there is an update available and install it if so with a simple click and when it is convenient to do so ..