Doctor Who fans, what say you about the new one?
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@tbgbe Excellent idea! [btw, OMZ the time; don't u sleep?]. Later today i'll zot back into UK via VPN & test that out, then report back here.
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@steffie Hmmm, i think i've drawn a bit of a blank. I found a way to change audio languages, but it's not an international choice [like on Netflix for instance], being restricted to UK options [eg, Gaelic, Welsh...]. Then i found an icon for Subtitles, but every time i clicked it to explore options, an associated popup menu appeared but vanished again after ~1 second [before i had properly digested what was there], & thereafter the icon which generated it also vanished. Refreshing the page brought it back again, but unhelpfully the cycle just repeated each time.
In Help i found this, from which i suspect that even if you can get the subtitles to behave, they're likely only going to be in English anyway.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/how-to-guides/accessibility/using_subtitles#switch
If so, it'd then be a question of whether trying to simultaneously watch the action [yay Jodie] whilst reading the subtitles AND internally translating them to Deutch would be viable, & comfortable. Personally i'd find this more stressful than relaxing. -
@steffie said in Doctor Who fans, what say you about the new one?:
they're likely only going to be in English anyway.
Yes they are.
trying to simultaneously watch the action [yay Jodie] whilst reading the subtitles AND internally translating them to Deutch would be viable, & comfortable.
Can't speak for Gwen, but I found subtitles in Dutch/Nederlands and in those in Deutch helped me follow programmes when I was working there; and my language skills were (a lot) worse than hers.
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Episode 4 Potentially spoilery bits
This latest episode is the first time (as far as I can remember) that an episode has contained parts where I had to avert my eyes.
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@lonm Teehee, yes, some yucky bits.
Also potential spoilery remarks:
Spoiler
- Purple Sofa -- Oh yessssssssssssssss!!!
- Takedown of trumplethinskin & yank gun culture - yay.
- Not once camera moved in sufficiently close, but initially from afar, i mistook Dr Spiderlady for Petronella Osgood.
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@sojiro84 that was one of the problems with the previous episodes writing - they contained many callbacks to previous episodes, while nice for fans it was kind of restrictive for new viewers.
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Spoilers... maybe?
OK. I'm starting to get a bit frustrated with the writing here. Perhaps this was always present, but there seems to be an uptick in the number of "sorry"s being said.
I'm also yet to get a really good sense of what makes this new doctor different from the others, she's a bit more upbeat than the last which is a nice change, but beyond that I don't know much of her new personality yet (I'm just going to hope unsubtle socio-political messages are not a part of that).
Our two male supporting cast have a good rapport and seem to be developing nicely, but yaz isn't really doing all that much.
This last episode also had seemingly many of chekov's guns, and by the end I'm not sure where they went. Perhaps it would have been better with fewer crazy things going wrong, allowing the episode to focus more on solving fewer issues.
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@lonm I understand your points, & don't particularly disagree with them objectively, but that said, subjectively i really enjoyed this latest episode... i thought it was a great romp.
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@steffie Perhaps I'm holding my standards too high... It was good, but I think it could have been better.
That said I'm not a professional writer anyway, so I'm not exactly qualified to make statements like that .
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@lonm said in Doctor Who fans, what say you about the new one?:
Perhaps I'm holding my standards too high
Teehee, a very cunning way to convey that my standards are despairingly low. Very wily of you!!
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I enjoyed episode five, I thought it was well done. Did anyone else think the baddie of the week was kind of familiar?
At first sight I thought Stitch from Lilo & Stitch; after the eating gimmick all I could think of was Nibbler from Futurama.
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I quite liked the baddie too...
...as it wasn't really a "baddie". It was just an alien going about its normal behaviour, but because it was so alien, it ends up harming the people it comes in contact with.
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@lonm True,
more alien nature than bad.
I thought they did a really impressive job with the effects for it. All in all I am enjoying this season, the new doc, and the companions. My favorite so far would be Graham, something about an older companion seems to add something. I liked Wilfred a lot as well.
Edit: Possible spoiler.
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Episode 6 spoilers
I really enjoyed this episode. Way more than the previous one.
Good story and interesting characters. The twist that the aliens were there as observers and it was the brother who was responsible for the problems was a good one. I wonder if they would have been needed at all though, if by not showing the aliens (and leaving it in the viewers mind) they could have added more mystery. I'm not a writer, so I can't really say.
I liked how the "morals" were handled here - be respecting of each other, don't let borders get between family. Unlike past episodes, here it gets told through the story of human history instead of just saying it in your face (Doc even managed to avoid getting all vocally angry about guns despite one being pointed in her face).
I felt like the doctor had a bit more presence in this episode compared to the previous one(s), and yaz got a lot more character development and screen time, which is great.
While I was vaguely aware of it, I had no real knowledge of what the partition involved. Not only has this episode educated me a bit, it's sparked my curiosity to find out more. Doctor Who getting back to it's roots! There's a nice line in there about listening to angry people on the radio and getting sucked into the mob mentality. Some things never really change I guess.
Oh, and far fewer "I'm sorry"s this week. Well done, episode writer. -
@lonm Nice summary. Another gripping ep... it made me weep a bit, in desperate sadness at the plain hateful nastiness of humans. Why the hell are we such a dumb arbitrary species?
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@steffie Just after doctor who there was a new Attenborough documentary about chimpanzees. The similarities between humans and them are... disturbingly high.
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@gwen-dragon In that case...
Yay bonobos
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@gwen-dragon said in Doctor Who fans, what say you about the new one?:
some like bonobos (social, peaceful, resolving conflicts with hugging, touches, sex).
There's an idea for a Doctor Who episode: Alternate future where the World Wars didn't happen and the parties involved solved everything through hugs and sex.
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@lonm As mentioned, there was much i enjoyed in this ep, but one of the things that especially resonated positively for me was the discovery that here we had some new aliens who were not ipso facto hellbent on mass destruction, slaughter & enslavement. They were [gasp] benevolent.
I stream a lot of Netflix these days, for some years, & as well as enjoying many comedies & romantic things, i love Sci-Fi. The predominant theme in many [/most?] of these, to my great dismay, is that the aliens are written as evil murderous monsters, & the entire plot-lines thus unfold accordingly. An equally pathetic alternative theme is that the aliens are not initially known to be either good or evil, merely "alien", yet that alone is deemed sufficient for the US govt [coz inevitably in so many of these things it IS that mob] to marshal their bloody big military with tanks & missiles & nukes & generally nasty stuff, to basically blow the crap outta the visitors... the "logic" being essentially "they're not from our village, ergo Death To Strangers".
We are such a hateful violent nutty species. Hence once again, yay Jodie, & thank you Chris.
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