why not release vivaldi on the microsoft store



  • i am moving on to microsoft apps almost exclusively, they are easier to install and uninstall and it's overall cleaner, they also support fluent design, why has vivaldi not been released on the microsoft store then the border can have fluent design.


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  • @zzcool the Store policy does not allow any software not using the HTML and JavaScript engines provided by Microsoft.
    Vivaldi is (for the relevant future) completely based on Chromium.
    Using Fluent requires a complete UI redesign and is unlikely to be easily portable to other platforms.


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    This may be a problem for the future, since Windows is planning not to allow software downloads outside of its store, similar to what it does in WindowsPhone where a jailbreak is equally impossible.
    This means, if Vivaldi does not manage to enter this store, there will not be Vivaldi for future versions of Windows.



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    I'm pretty sure if anything like that ever happens there will be no Windows anymore


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    @maxkarlernst said in why not release vivaldi on the microsoft store:

    @catweazle
    I'm pretty sure if anything like that ever happens there will be no Windows anymore

    Anyway I think of moving to Linux when MS stops supporting WIN 7, the only decent, apart from XP that MS has manufactured to date


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    @catweazle And then a lot of software companies will sue them straight into the ground in the EU, before turning to anti-trust litigation in the US.


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    @ayespy said in why not release vivaldi on the microsoft store:

    @catweazle And then a lot of software companies will sue them straight into the ground in the EU, before turning to anti-trust litigation in the US.

    It would not be the first time that they denounce MS due to unfair competition. Always the issue that comes out cheaper to MS, open the store or pay the fine.


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    @catweazle Don't forget the EU forced MS into the browser choice menu.


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    @ayespy said in why not release vivaldi on the microsoft store:

    @catweazle Don't forget the EU forced MS into the browser choice menu.

    Yes, in the Windowsphone store you can also find other browsers, UC Browser, Opera mini and some others, but there is no possible way to set them as the default browser.
    The search is done with the IE that has WP incorporated and Bing, the other browsers must be opened first like any other app.


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    @catweazle I was thinking of desktop. When the browser menu was implemented, it was a requirement that a Windows user be allowed to select any DEFAULT browser from the menu.


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    @ayespy said in why not release vivaldi on the microsoft store:

    @catweazle I was thinking of desktop. When the browser menu was implemented, it was a requirement that a Windows user be allowed to select any DEFAULT browser from the menu.

    I hope so, but maybe it will happen the same as in WP, there are other browsers but the main one will be that dictates MS.
    As I said, you have to get used to the idea of ​​using Linux in the future and send MS to fry asparagus


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    @catweazle I'm less fond of Linux than Win10 at this point. It is more resource hungry and slower than Win10, and more prone to glitches and bugs that take more tech expertise than I possess to keep it running smoothly. For instance, my wireless printer is "installed" and recognized on it, but I can't get it to print to save my life. I have an ok wireless dongle and a really nice one (newer), and I was using the newer one on Mint. A kernel update killed that. The machine won't even boot if I have the newer one plugged in. Now I have to use the inferior one. My softphone device is incompatible with Linux. It is apparently possible, but beyond my understanding of the system, to run all three of my different versions of Vivaldi on Linux. There are certain insoluble media problems. How to network the damn thing is beyond me, one of my 32-bit dual-booted copies of Mint quit booting and now I have to install a new version over the top of it, etc. Certain of my indispensable software only runs on Windows (and Wine is a poor substitute.)

    Now if I were forced into a Linux environment just to have the flexibility that I need, I could do it and I could learn to adapt. Hell - I might even learn to use console without typing errors and tearing my hair out.

    So for my purposes it would be optimum if MS did not become the kind of closed ecosystem that Mac OS/iOS already has. That would indeed be sad.


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    @catweazle Anti-monopoly laws are around for a reason. If the EU doesn't act the USA will. Plus billions of users around the world. Besides I'm pretty sure MS isn't that dumb.

    Microsoft keeps messing with my defaults with each major update. I change them back. As soon as M3 is released MS Mail will be history. Win10 fails to recognize V as a viable email source.



  • @catweazle windowsphone, lol. It's practically non-existent. dinosaur alarm


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    @para-noid said in why not release vivaldi on the microsoft store:

    Win10 fails to recognize V as a viable email source.

    Known, and planned for a remedy.



  • @para-noid with this latest update, none of my defaults were changed. I think ms got the message on that front


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    @luetage said in why not release vivaldi on the microsoft store:

    @catweazle windowsphone, lol. It's practically non-existent. dinosaur alarm

    I know it and it also has very criticizable points, but on the other hand, what I need is this old Lumia that I have. to call, send messages and look at the mail, and frankly I do not know any other OS for smartphones more secure


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    @ayespy said in why not release vivaldi on the microsoft store:

    @catweazle I'm less fond of Linux than Win10 at this point. It is more resource hungry and slower than Win10, and more prone to glitches and bugs that take more tech expertise than I possess to keep it running smoothly. For instance, my wireless printer is "installed" and recognized on it, but I can't get it to print to save my life. I have an ok wireless dongle and a really nice one (newer), and I was using the newer one on Mint. A kernel update killed that. The machine won't even boot if I have the newer one plugged in. Now I have to use the inferior one. My softphone device is incompatible with Linux. It is apparently possible, but beyond my understanding of the system, to run all three of my different versions of Vivaldi on Linux. There are certain insoluble media problems. How to network the damn thing is beyond me, one of my 32-bit dual-booted copies of Mint quit booting and now I have to install a new version over the top of it, etc. Certain of my indispensable software only runs on Windows (and Wine is a poor substitute.)

    Now if I were forced into a Linux environment just to have the flexibility that I need, I could do it and I could learn to adapt. Hell - I might even learn to use console without typing errors and tearing my hair out.

    So for my purposes it would be optimum if MS did not become the kind of closed ecosystem that Mac OS/iOS already has. That would indeed be sad.

    I used a Kubuntu for a while, in my opinion one of the best distros and of a quality, speed, UI and impeccable technical attention, as in all KDE soft. The only point where I had problems then was because of the compatibility with a program that I use and that's why I went back to Windows.
    Anyway I have the Kubuntu ISO on a pendrive, because it is



  • This is kinda off-topic but my favorite distro right now is ubuntu budgie @Catweazle . It in my opinion has the cleanest and lowest profile UI of anything I've tried so far. Has a lot of customizability and is easy for a newb to understand. Also it has a really nice get started tab that helps you download and install commonly used programs and your browsers (it somehow included vivaldi on the list so that was nice :) )


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