[Solved] When the final release will be available?



  • Hi, when we can expect the final (stable) release being available? A ballpark figure?


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    The last I heard, Vivaldi was hoping to have Beta by the middle of the year, and a "stable" release by the end of the year. That's pretty ambitious, and they seem to be running a little behind, but that's what it looked like they were trying to do.

    The absolute answer, of course, for any of these questions, is "when it's ready." Many things are outside the control of the development team, and many unexpected problems are certain to crop up. When you are creating something new and at the same time are trying to keep pace with continually changing web compatibility, it is impossible to say when things will be done.

    IT projects commonly miss their target dates by 20% to 100%. Pretty much no one ever meets a scheduled release date unless they are totally willing for the software to be crap on the day it is revealed to the world.



  • That's an exhaustive answer. Anyway, I can't wait for the stable release, Opera 12 is becoming a real pain in the ass web-compatibility-wise and I simply can't get used to other browsers. See ya.



  • @Atronach:

    Anyway, I can't wait for the stable release, Opera 12 is becoming a real pain in the ass web-compatibility-wise and I simply can't get used to other browsers. See ya.

    Frankly all those definitions are, more or less, pointless.

    When Vivaldi will be called stable? –-> It's already solid and more than usable given it isn't built from scratch, but based on an already well tested engine.

    When Vivaldi will be called finished? ---> Never. It will be improved constantly on each build, as happened with opera, chromium, opium and so on.

    When Vivaldi will be called "beta", "released" "whatever"? ---> Well, those are artificial thresholds, they depends on the view of developers, companies, users. As a matter of fact any Opera Next release was more stable, solid, and feature packed than most of other "released" programs.

    Think to the Windows Media Center (officially killed yesterday by MS). When it was "released" in 2004 was literally a pain.

    It become usable only after an endless string of patches, fix packs, service packs and so on, a process that took years.

    So whatever the Vivaldi releases will be called on the future, is up to you, to consider it "usable", "feature finished", "stable", "solid" and so on.



  • @The_Solutor:

    When Vivaldi will be called finished? –-> Never. It will be improved constantly on each build, as happened with opera, chromium, opium and so on.

    Of course it's never finished. I know that with software developing It's a never ending story. I'm well aware that even WinXP after all these years suffers from newly discovered security holes which would be nice to be patched. It was a poor choice of words from my part - by "final release" I actually meant a release deemed stable or "feature complete" by its own developers. It can even be still open to small features, but should be generally on a par with the good old Opera I can't leave behind.



  • Thanks Solutor. That is the best description I have ever come across for a product ready to use day-in-and-day-out "… is up to you, to consider it "usable", "feature finished", "stable", "solid" and so on..

    Over the years I have used "alpha" and "beta" products that were much more stable than programs I had spent good money for. The developers make the decision to release, BUT I have to make the decision as to whether I will use the program on a regular basis.

    Vuvaldi x32 has been MY default browser for about six or seven weeks now. It has most of the things I really want in my browser and I have found it to be very stable. I have adjusted some of my work habits and learned work-arounds from the Vivaldi Community to get the performance I am looking for and I am waiting with hope for some of my requests to be filled.

    Opera was my default for many years – going back to the beginning when I bought it because it was so much better than IE's precursor, Netscape or CompuServe. Vivaldi is not Opera 12.xx, but then Opera was no longer the innovative company it had been and it was no longer putting out a product for users like me.

    So Vivaldi is my default and plenty stable enough for my daily use.


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    Likewise here. While certain users find it "unusable" of full of "deal breakers" that they could never use it until this or that deficiency is corrected, it actually provided me two of the principal things I had needed and been unable to get in a browser since O12XX, pretty much right out of the gate. So I set it as default when it was, like. 3 weeks old.


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