Vivaldi Not Working with Live365 Widgets and Other Click-Through Radio Streams



  • I have the latest stable version of Vivaldi running on both my home computer running Linux Mint 19 MATE 64-bit and at work on Windows 7 Professional 64-bit. This problem happens on both computers.

    Before I continue, I know some will immediately think, "Why bother with this type of setup when I can just listen another way." To make a long story short, stations like mine are required to have a setup such as this for the main listening link to be certain listeners are properly counted for music licensing purposes. In addition, if this widget doesn't work, many will think the stream is offline and not try the others.

    I will use my own station as an example but this happens for any Live365 station where one clicks on its main widget or any others that have a similar click-through/pop-up setup. Please also notice in my screenshots that the Privacy Badger icon is grey meaning I have disabled it on these sites to show it is not the source of the problem.

    The first screenshot shows one of the two styles of player widgets offered by Live365. Upon clicking that widget, the second screenshot shows the page from Live365 that opens up in a new tab. The third screenshot shows what happens in Vivaldi after clicking on the previous page and that tab diappears; a blank pop-up screen where the player should appear with nothing in the URL bar. The fourth shows how this setup has no problem working in Chrome (and the same goes for Chromium, Firefox, and even Brave, the latter two having no problem on either Win7 or Linux).

    So, is this a settings problem on my end that I have missed, an issue with how Vivaldi handles a pop-up such as this, or something else? I will be glad to provide any information requested to help diagnose this problem. Thanks!

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  • Moderator

    in Vivaldi 1.15 i remember popup windows have problems with external links.

    Can you open the player with context menu 'Open Link in new Tab'?

    Or you may set Vivaldi to open all popups in tabs:
    Open Settings → Appearance
    Window Appearance
    [×] Open Popups in Tabs



  • @gwen-dragon said in Vivaldi Not Working with Live365 Widgets and Other Click-Through Radio Streams:

    in Vivaldi 1.15 i remember popup windows have problems with external links.

    Can you open the player with context menu 'Open Link in new Tab'?

    Or you may set Vivaldi to open all popups in tabs:
    Open Settings → Appearance
    Window Appearance
    [×] Open Popups in Tabs

    I can indeed get the player to work if I "open link in new tab." The problem is, that is a Live365 page I cannot alter where I could put in a note informing Vivaldi users to open it in that manner.

    As for changing the setting to open popups in tabs, it does fill the URL bar but the screen remains blank.

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    Please, can you give me the URL to the page, i would like to test and investigate.

    Found it: https://kohosoradio66.com



  • @gwen-dragon said in Vivaldi Not Working with Live365 Widgets and Other Click-Through Radio Streams:

    Please, can you give me the URL to the page, i would like to test and investigate.

    That is very kind of you. I hope you don't hate oldies. 😉

    [https://kohosoradio66.com/](link url)

    I will add this. While I would like this to work as it does in other browsers, if worse comes to worse, I can insert a note under the widget on my own page informing Vivaldi users to open in a new tab. Of course, I'd rather not have to do that because, as we all know, a lot of people somehow never manage to bother to read such things.


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    @kohoso said in Vivaldi Not Working with Live365 Widgets and Other Click-Through Radio Streams:

    I hope you don't hate oldies. 😉

    I am a ol' gal, dear, is sometimes love older music from 60-70ies.


  • Moderator

    But how do i get such popup.
    I tried in Firefox 61, Chrome 68 and Vivaldi 1.15 and 1.16. That was with "World-Wide Listeners" and "Basic In-Browser Player".
    I got a new tab.

    Oh, and i can not test "U.S. and Canadian Listeners". I am from Europe.



  • @gwen-dragon said in Vivaldi Not Working with Live365 Widgets and Other Click-Through Radio Streams:

    But how do i get such popup.
    I tried in Firefox 61, Chrome 68 and Vivaldi 1.15 and 1.16. That was with "World-Wide Listeners" and "Basic In-Browser Player".
    I got a new tab.

    Oh, and i can not test "U.S. and Canadian Listeners". I am from Europe.

    This is an unfortunate limitation as the new owners of Live365 slowly bring it back after the original company ceased operations in early 2016. At this time, they only have official music licensing for the United States and Canada. That's why I have the main pop-up player under a US/Canada notation. If Live365 detects a listener is not in those countries, that player is geo-blocked (which is why I have all the alternatives prominently linked, too). They are working on getting licensing from Europe as well as Australia/New Zealand but, as I'm sure you imagine, that process is slow and expensive.

    Let me see if I can find a non-Live365 station that uses the same system.


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    @kohoso said in Vivaldi Not Working with Live365 Widgets and Other Click-Through Radio Streams:

    Let me see if I can find a non-Live365 station that uses the same system.

    That would be helpful for me if you could do this.



  • @gwen-dragon Well, of course, the non-Live365 station I know best showing the same behavior is not streaming at the moment and my bosses won't leave me alone long enough right now for me to find one of the others. :^s

    Let me try this. Here are the critical lines of code on the "Click to play" page that generates the blank popup for Live365 stations. The href entry on the first line is the link to my station with an additional "?l" after it for reasons I am not educated enough to know. With other similar setups working (e.g. stations running at StreamLicensing) while others don't, perhaps it is the coding generating the popup that Vivaldi either likes or blocks...which means I'm likely stuck with just putting in a note for Vivaldi users under my main widget.

    <a class="button-audio-control" href="/a28894?l" onclick="return clickp()" style="float:left"><span class="jp-playx"></span></a>
    <div class="flag--large__content" style="float:left">
    <a href="/a28894?l" onclick="return clickp()">
    <h1 id="click" style="margin:0">Click to play</h1>
    <span class="secondary" style="font-size:140%">KoHoSo Radio 66</span>
    </a>



  • @gwen-dragon While a somewhat different format player-wise than the stations I was thinking of earlier, here is one from Canada that, for me, loads a blank popup even with Privacy Badger disabled for both the main site and the domain shown in the popup.

    [https://www.discovermoosejaw.com/radio/chab](link url)



  • @kohoso said in Vivaldi Not Working with Live365 Widgets and Other Click-Through Radio Streams:

    @gwen-dragon While a somewhat different format player-wise than the stations I was thinking of earlier, here is one from Canada that, for me, loads a blank popup even with Privacy Badger disabled for both the main site and the domain shown in the popup.

    800 CHAB

    I am currently using Vivaldi Snapshot 1.16.1259.3 on Linux Mint - but, for what it is worth - the "Listen Live" button/pop-up works for me. Is that the pop-up you referred to?


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    @tbgbe At 800CHAB the popup works on 1.15 and 1.16 for me on Windows.


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