We're thinking about starting a @telegram group. Would you join it? š¤
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Please upvote or downvote the topic depending how you feel about it. Thanks
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@gaelle Grouch Marx has a fantastic quote about group.
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@gaelle What would the purpose be? And Are you already using telegram inside the company and want the community to partake, or is this a completely new idea?
Upside: Seems like it can be run from a webpanel
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@gaelle I understand, so it's another channel to reach people, send out news and spread the word. Why not, can't hurt.
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@gaelle Definitely I'm for it. I use the telegram every day and it's a good form of communication. Also, Telegram is known among people and provides a good level of privacy
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@cheve11e_191 That's true. I tested the soft at the request of friend. @gaelle knows i am low profile.
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Not sure. I need more information before I commit myself one way or the other.
How does this differ from the Ambassador group?
What information will be passed via telegram?
I noticed somebody mentioned something about a phone number. What type of personal information is required?
What purpose will Telegram fulfill?
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@para-noid One interesting feature, it's possible to create bots.
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I have no feelings about it. I don't use Telegram and I'm not aware that I even know anyone who does (no one has ever invited me to join).
I am not a heavy user of messaging. I exchange maybe two or three messages a month with customers (lawyers who text me after hours or on the weekends), and message regularly only with my wife, my two daughters and one son-in-law. That's it. My other son-in-law has a job in (very advanced) tech but, owing to security concerns and a complete lack of interest in social frippery doesn't message and doesn't even have a facebook or twitter account. One of my kids got me to join Marco Polo a few months ago, but I don't use it, and after the first two days, they have not used it to message me.
My customers are mostly professionals who are technical Neanderthals and whose facebook and LinkedIn accounts are run by their admin assistants.
Getting the picture? So my profile is not that of a typical Telegram user.
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@para-noid the only personal info telegram takes is your phone number, but you need to have a phone to install it on so that verification of your number can take place. additionally it will ask for access to your contacts.
i have it set up on pidgin and had it on my phone only for the initial setup. so apart from my phone number they dont have access to anything.
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After reading the two responses above it does not look very likely I will be using Telegram in my lifetime.
I do use Facebook and Twitter to announce any and all V updates released. Including snapshots. I don't live on neither FB nor Twitter. However both are excellent platforms for social networking. All that said, I do not give out certain personal information to anyone on the interweb.Did you know a bad dude can find out almost everything about you starting with just a phone number?
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@para-noid said in We're thinking about starting a @telegram group. Would you join it? :
Did you know a bad dude can find out almost everything about you starting with just a phone number?
It all begins with the information you provide about yourself on the Internet...
As for the Telegram itself, I've installed it on my phone & registered it about half a year ago and I forgot about its existence since then...
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I probably wouldn't join it:
- I'm already using 2 different messengers
- I'm getting update notices about new snapshots via the V update notification
- (only a small reason) Any messager group runs into danger of getting another chat-and-funny-images-well. Got enough of those already. The group would have to be admin-write-only or something
For those interested, this might be a nice touch to get current infos outside the forum. If you're thinking about a community group, I think the community will fast outgrow the sensible size for a messenger group.
Alternative idea: post update/snapshot infos and news via RSS. This can probably be integrated into the forum and be read/received by many clients, each to his/her own.
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@morg42 Vivaldi has a blog with an RSS feed. Additionally there is an RSS button on top of every forum topic and category page to get notified of new posts/topics. I think we got that covered. We also shouldn't forget that there is already a Vivaldi Discord channel.
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@luetage Wasn't aware of that - RSS seemed a more interoperable way of communicating information than telegram.
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@morg42 This just shows that most users won't bother with RSS. It's not an argument against Telegram. But yeah, you can already get in touch in many ways.
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The issue with using telegram as a platform for that is, telegram has inadequate support for channels so all discussions will take place in the same place and that is going to get messy very quickly since different people will want to discuss different things. As a platform that's just dedicated for "spreading news" telegram is fine, but anything more will be hard to manage in my experience once the member-base grows larger.
A more ideal platform for discussions (+news) would be Discord where, on your dedicated server (free), you can create channels for different topics e.g. "general", "q&a", "bug debugging", "new feature discussions", "off-topic" etc. There's an ability to assign roles that can be configured with different access rights (e.g. ability to see or not specific channels, ability to write or not in others etc). It has really extensive moderation tools, has bot support (just like Telegram) for automating news submissions, voice chat which could be pretty handy in some scenarios where texting wouldn't be suited and many other useful features.
Also worth mentioning that discord requires no account to start chatting (you can verify your email and create an account at a later time if you want) and has a full featured web version (just like Telegram) along with dedicated clients for all major platforms, desktop or mobile.
There's already a 3rd-party Vivaldi discord server where a couple of Vivaldi developers are active and it's been working out pretty well. It's a relatively small server at the moment but as already pointed out Discord has great tools for managing large communities so an official server like that would be able to scale well. Anyone feel free to join if you want and check out Discord itself at the same time: https://discord.gg/cs6bTDU
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I agree with @mtaki14 that a group would not be feasible because soon there would have billions of discussions one overlapping the other.
So the best options would be to have a Broadcast List instead, where nobody can comment or chat, it would be an alternative for RSS since most people don't use or have an RSS reader.
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Considering the Vivaldi philosophy of an open and standardized web, publicly embracing a closed plattform would in my opinion send the wrong Signal.