where did my passwords go?



  • I run Vivaldi for a reason, becuase at work we have issues getting Firefox to view old corporate apps, as it locks down security. Vivaldi was working fine until I restarted it, then it turns out it's forgotten all my passwords. After messing about a bit it appears that there is now a link to passwords.google.com which was new to me as I didn't know google stored my passwords, so I delete the ones it did have.

    However, that still doesn't account for where my work logins have gone.

    I guess this is a design change on your part right? Like the sudden rash of Google captcha nonsense of teaching thier cars to see roads and cars. But what I need to know is have my stored passowrds from vivaldi been stored anywhere outside my computer? Have they been deleted?

    Quite frankly I'd rather they were deleted. It's bad enough you introduced a breaking change without any warning up front. But when that involves the wholesale outsourcing of sensitive data to a third party I think we should at least be told why.


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    @praxis22 said in where did my passwords go?:

    It appears that there is now a link to passwords.google.com

    Google does not store your passwords. That is a wrong not removed internal link.

    But when that involves the wholesale outsourcing of sensitive data to a third party I think we should at least be told why.

    No sensitive data like your logins or passwords goes to Third Party.

    Vivaldi stores password encryption keys in following folders/files (depends if use of GNOME keyring or KDEwallet):
    Kwallet:
    ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet/*
    ~/.kde/share/config/kwallet*

    GNOME keyring:
    ~/.local/share/keyrings/*

    And Vivaldi login database in:
    ~/.config/Vivaldi/Default/Login Data*



  • @gwen-dragon Cheers for the reply.

    Google does/did store my data/passwords presumably from dev builds of chrome. Some of the passwords I found there were years old. though like I said it good to know that it existed so I could delete it.

    I appear to have a gnome keyrings file, but I don't use gnome, or kde I use XFCE though I may have compatibilty libraries installed. Open Suse 13.1

    Login Data-Journal is 0 bytes while Login Data is an SQLite file and does have data.

    So it's fair to say that the password functionality has broken in the latest release then? vivaldi-stable-1.15.1147.52-1.x86_64

    Can we get an ETA of when it will be unbroken?


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    @praxis22 - Exactly what @Gwen-Dragon clearly explained about encryption method, and no Third Party envolved.
    Whats is your distro and Vivaldi version

    Let me add an extra info:

    • in V menu >> Tools >> Settings >> Privacy shows the Website and the Account Name
    • type chrome://settings/passwords on the Address Bar also displays a list

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    which errors are shown if you start vivaldi from shell?


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    @praxis22 said in where did my passwords go?:

    So it's fair to say that the password functionality has broken in the latest release then?

    Nope. There's nothing wrong with passwd manager.



    Run Vivaldi from terminal. See command line bellow:

    bash -x /opt/vivaldi/vivaldi
    

    As soon it starts copy everyting was printed on terminal



  • @praxis22 said in where did my passwords go?:

    So it's fair to say that the password functionality has broken in the latest release then?

    Incorrect. Mine continues to work just fine.


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    On my KDE 4 and 5 i did not encounter any password losses.

    And we do not have any reported in bug tracker by Linux users.


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    @gwen-dragon Auto Login_on?
    And same on G.Keyring


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    @praxis22 said in where did my passwords go?:

    XFCE

    Perhaps this Manjaro tip is related to your "not-stored passwords".



  • @lamarca
    Sorry for the delay, got busy.

    The odd thing was I couldn't find any password functionality in settings at all. Which is why I presumed you'd had a change of plan. a quick search and google suggested the chrome link you provided. Which on my system directs to this:

    vivaldi://settings/passwords

    Which looks like this:

    Manage passwords
    On
    Auto Sign-in
    Automatically sign in to websites using stored credentials. If disabled, you will be asked for confirmation every time before signing in to a website.
    Access your passwords from any device at passwords.google.com
    Saved Passwords
    Saved passwords will appear here
    Never Saved
    Sites which never save passwords will appear here

    So I toggled the two switches and then I have a password entry in settings. Neither of which display any list of sites.


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    No saved passwords.

    @praxis22 said in where did my passwords go?:

    Access your passwords from any device at passwords.google.com

    It does nothing to do with Vivaldi, it's a UI inherited from google

    @praxis22 said in where did my passwords go?:

    So I toggled the two switches and then I have a password entry in settings. Neither of which display any list of sites.

    Not sure if I got it, You found no passwd on

    1. in V menu >> Tools >> Settings >> Privacy shows the Website and the Account Name

    2. type chrome://settings/passwords on the Address Bar also displays a list

    The file Login\ Data is empty. I can see no way to retrieve the passwd.
    My suggestion, save one new passwd, check the places bellows.



  • @lamarca said in where did my passwords go?:

    @praxis22 said in where did my passwords go?:

    So it's fair to say that the password functionality has broken in the latest release then?

    Nope. There's nothing wrong with passwd manager.



    Run Vivaldi from terminal. See command line bellow:

    bash -x /opt/vivaldi/vivaldi
    

    As soon it starts copy everyting was printed on terminal

    # bash -x /usr/bin/vivaldi --no-sandbox
    ++ readlink -f /usr/bin/vivaldi
    + export CHROME_WRAPPER=/opt/vivaldi/vivaldi
    + CHROME_WRAPPER=/opt/vivaldi/vivaldi
    ++ dirname /opt/vivaldi/vivaldi
    + HERE=/opt/vivaldi
    + which xdg-settings
    + xdg_app_dir=/root/.local/share/applications
    + mkdir -p /root/.local/share/applications
    + '[' -f /root/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list ']'
    + case "`uname -m`" in
    ++ uname -m
    + DEBARCH=x86_64-linux-gnu
    + VIVALDI_FFMPEG_FOUND=NO
    + checkffmpeg /usr/lib/chromium-browser/libffmpeg.so /usr/share/doc/chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra
    + '[' NO = NO ']'
    + [[ -n /usr/share/doc/chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra ]]
    + '[' -e /usr/share/doc/chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra ']'
    + [[ -z /usr/share/doc/chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra ]]
    + checkffmpeg /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/oxide-qt/libffmpeg.so /usr/share/doc/oxideqt-codecs-extra
    + '[' NO = NO ']'
    + [[ -n /usr/share/doc/oxideqt-codecs-extra ]]
    + '[' -e /usr/share/doc/oxideqt-codecs-extra ']'
    + [[ -z /usr/share/doc/oxideqt-codecs-extra ]]
    + checkffmpeg /usr/lib64/chromium-ffmpeg-extra/libffmpeg.so /usr/share/doc/packages/chromium-ffmpeg-extra
    + '[' NO = NO ']'
    + [[ -n /usr/share/doc/packages/chromium-ffmpeg-extra ]]
    + '[' -e /usr/share/doc/packages/chromium-ffmpeg-extra ']'
    + [[ -z /usr/share/doc/packages/chromium-ffmpeg-extra ]]
    + checkffmpeg /root/.local/lib/vivaldi/libffmpeg.so
    + '[' NO = NO ']'
    + [[ -n '' ]]
    + [[ -z '' ]]
    + '[' -r /root/.local/lib/vivaldi/libffmpeg.so ']'
    ++ grep -aom1 'FFmpeg version N-[0-9]\+-' /root/.local/lib/vivaldi/libffmpeg.so
    ++ cut -f2 -d-
    + '[' 78946 -ge 89284 ']'
    + checkffmpeg /opt/vivaldi/libffmpeg.so
    + '[' NO = NO ']'
    + [[ -n '' ]]
    + [[ -z '' ]]
    + '[' -r /opt/vivaldi/libffmpeg.so ']'
    + '[' NO = NO ']'
    + cat
    
    No suitable library for HTML5 MP4 (H.264/AAC) video and MP3 audio was
    found, therefore only open codecs will play.
    
    For assistance on how to enable proprietary media, visit:
    
    https://help.vivaldi.com/article/html5-mp4-h-264aac-video-and-mp3-audio-support-under-linux/
    
    + export CHROME_VERSION_EXTRA=stable
    + CHROME_VERSION_EXTRA=stable
    + export GNOME_DISABLE_CRASH_DIALOG=SET_BY_GOOGLE_CHROME
    + GNOME_DISABLE_CRASH_DIALOG=SET_BY_GOOGLE_CHROME
    + exec
    + exec
    + exec
    ++ exec cat
    ++ exec cat
    + exec -a /usr/bin/vivaldi /opt/vivaldi/vivaldi-bin --no-sandbox
    Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/fonts.conf", line 146: blank doesn't take any effect anymore. please remove it from your fonts.conf
    [22099:22122:0710/180200.823330:ERROR:in_progress_cache_impl.cc(93)] Could not read download entries from file because there was a read failure.
    [22099:22099:0710/180201.061314:ERROR:gpu_process_transport_factory.cc(1019)] Lost UI shared context.
    [22099:22182:0710/180203.204848:ERROR:object_proxy.cc(626)] Failed to call method: org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.GetDevices: object_path= /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files
    [22099:22182:0710/180203.204870:ERROR:networking_private_linux.cc(733)] Failed to enumerate network devices
    

    [modedit] Please format such long output in Markdown code-blocks

    I run it out of a desktop menu bar icon which manualls calls the script, though loking at the settings now it appears my passwords have returned. The list is now populated. So it looks like the shell script name has changed. I was running a file called vivaldi-stable (a link to /opt/vivaldi/vivaldi) but vivaldi is now a link to a script : /etc/alternatives/vivaldi

    I'll update my menu bar icon.


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    @praxis22 The switch --no-sandbox, applications at Root dir, lack of codecs necessary to play vídeo and audio.
    Never seen a dump like what was printed on terminal, mostly the Root dir.

    That's what I would do, back my files see how to back files here

    And remove/purge Vivaldi, including the Folder at your Home.


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    Now I realized you are running Vivaldi as Root and --no-sandbox

    bash -x /usr/bin/vivaldi --no-sandbox
    
    xdg_app_dir=/root/.local/share/applications
    mkdir -p /root/.local/share/applications
    '[' -f /root/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list ']'
    

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    @praxis22 Why do you need to run Vivaldi as root?


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    Running as root and --no-sandox.


 

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