Speaking Browser



  • I Think de Developers & Designer of Vivaldi must make the Browser a Speaking Browser. New Browsers like Apple, Microsoft and google develop now their speaking Browsers. If Vivaldi not go's with the flow it's a dead born child which i hope not, also it must be a multiplatform Browser (Windows , Linux and Apple ) and build in a underwater screen for chatting (Calling ike Skype and Facebook (Talk and Webcam) than it wil be a sucsess



  • And it would be really cool if it could print money and serve as a personal hovercraft. :woohoo:



  • Read-aloud would certainly be a useful feature, but to say that the browser would be like a still-born baby without it is ridiculous hyperbole. Even more ridiculous is the sarcastic comment about printing money and personalised hovercraft, which shows an abysmal ignorance of the needs of those with visual impairment, dyslexia, etc.

    When Opera dropped support for reading web pages, a lot of users were disappointed. Although most users don't need this, for the visually impaired, or those for whom English is a second language it is a very useful feature. The blind will be using screen-reading software already, but that is not something that most browser users would want to buy.



  • Sorry for my words, I want this browser to Be a succes and if i see what sharks like Google, Apple and Microsoft swim around, I just wanted to give a warning.I apologize



  • @Pesala:

    Even more ridiculous is the sarcastic comment about printing money and personalised hovercraft, which shows an abysmal ignorance of the needs of those with visual impairment, dyslexia, etc.

    …orrrr... :whistle:

    It shows that in a punchy moment I took the whole post (incorrectly :pinch: ) as a joke: ("it's a dead born child" … "it must be a multiplatform Browser (Windows , Linux and Apple )" [it already is] … "and build in a underwater screen for chatting")

    Although I'm quite familiar with disability and accessibility issues (including my own), and an advocate of OS and software accessibility features, my first thoughts were of Apple Siri and Microsoft Cortana.

    OP said nothing about accessibility concerns or disabilities (visual impairment, etc), nor do I see any hints or clues that those are OP's concerns. In fact, OP seemed quite capable of posting here in the forum for a Tech Preview browser that currently has no audio/speech capabilities (…but maybe he is using some other speech-enabled browser). However, I did see clues that OP's native language may not, be English, and that alone probably should have been enough for me to be more cautious in interpreting the post as a joke.

    And "Apple, Microsoft and google develop now their speaking Browsers", not as an accessibility feature (although it is that), but as a commercially profitable (and frankly amazing) feature to attract those who can afford (or can't afford but buy anyway) the latest gadgets, tablets, cell phones, watches, etc., to make Apple, Microsoft, and Google even more staggeringly profitable.

    But it is easy to misunderstand the written word (a problem not necessarily improved, BTW, with computerized reading assistants that cannot decode the nuances often intended by the author).

    …So I think, Pesala, that you misunderstood me.

    …And Whdr01, I apologize for misunderstanding the intent of your post. :blush:


  • Moderator

    And I believe everybody misunderstood the OP.

    Does the OP really meant the browser speaking or the user speaking to the browser? I believe the OP is talking about Cortana, Siri and OK Google support.



  • Yes, a browser who can read webpages and output content to a audio channel is useful.
    But Audio input for commands is more complex.

    But Vivaldi needs the abilities for screenreaders tio be a really Open Browser for All!



  • @An_dz:

    And I believe everybody misunderstood the OP. …
    ...I believe the OP is talking about Cortana, Siri and OK Google support.

    Well, I said I first thought of Apple Siri and Microsoft Cortana, and that was part why I took the whole post as a joke (that Vivaldi would become a 4th voice search option).

    I wasn't familiar with OK Google or Google Voice Search, but I just figured since OP mentioned Google, Google must have an entry in the "marketplace" as well.



  • @Gwen-Dragon:

    Yes, a browser who can read webpages and output content to a audio channel is useful.
    But Audio input for commands is more complex.

    Well but most of those things are going to be implemented in the underlying operating systems, would make a little sense to reimplement them for a single SW



  • So Vivaldi "needs" text-to-speech and built in chat… two things that Opera had ten years ago and which were killed (just before they killed Presto) because "they weren't being used"...

    So who is wrong, the OP or the current Opera management? Hmmm... :whistle:





  • @An_dz:

    And I believe everybody misunderstood the OP.

    Perhaps, but the thread title is “Speaking Browser.”

    Opera never did provide the voice libraries for reading text from a webpage — they were provided by IBM, so they shouldn't be accused of dropping voice support. Even Opera 11.64 would not be able to read text on Windows 7 as far as I know as the voice libraries won't install.

    It may be unrealistic to expect voice support in Vivaldi, and if Windows 10 will provide it at the OS level there is even less chance of it happening, but given that some users are still using Windows XP, one can assume that a large proportion of users will still be using Windows 7 or 8 for many years yet. I am unlikely to upgrade my current PC and OS before about 2020, so using an extension would seem to be the obvious solution.



  • Hm, the mentioning of an "abysmal ignorance of the needs of those with visual impairment" reminded me of something.

    There is at least one screen-reading software I am aware of, which is provided free of charge for anyone. The software is the result of the work of a charity organization mainly (entirely?) dependent on donations. It is called NVDA.



  • @tardigrada:

    Hm, the mentioning of an "abysmal ignorance of the needs of those with visual impairment" reminded me of something.

    There is at least one screen-reading software I am aware of, which is provided free of charge for anyone. The software is the result of the work of a charity organization mainly (entirely?) dependent on donations. It is called NVDA.

    There's the MS one, you will find it in accessibility section

    All one can ask to Vivaldi is to properly trigger and use it.



  • @The_Solutor:

    There's the MS one, you will find it in accessibility section.

    Mille grazie, very kind of you, but my actual message were somewhere between the lines. :)

    BTW, I knew there is one (at least) in Win 8. Nevertheless NVDA has some additional advantages. It is worth a try. …and a donation?


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