Closing saved session multiplies pinned tabs in regular session
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@BoneTone said in Closing saved session multiplies pinned tabs in regular session:
But the user would be wrong, leading to the misunderstandings we're discussing about what sessions are and how they work. I'm not being pedantic about terminology, it's an important distinction that users need to understand
....Saved Sessions only exist on-disk, and currently cannot be updated. They provide users with the ability to restore a historical snapshot of the browser's prior state.
Quite a long reply this time. I think that this is a conflict between terminology with its application, and functionality. What users have been explaining is that the functionality is less than optimal. In fact, to a certain extant it is bad. Focusing on whether sessions operate correctly from a terminology viewpoint misses the point. and for users that point is all that matters. If vivaldi is expecting people who aren't browser designers to be using the browser (and I believe the do) then user expectations, usability, elegance, are all that matter. Technically correct use of terminology is irrelevant. The productive response is to change how sessions function or perhaps simply remove the sessions function if it can't be made to operate in a way that users expect. The goal is to make users happy.
Closing a "saved session window" from the taskbar dropdown causes the window to close without moving pinned tabs to the already open window (as explained in early posts). Only closing the window with the upper right X produces multiple pinned tabs. This indicates that the problem can be solved with attention to programming and is clearly either a bug or a very bizarre design choice..
The saved session is only bringing back a Selected part of the browser's prior state: whatever tabs were saved for 'saved session'. An argument can be made that opening the saved session in a new window shouldn't open the pinned tabs at all, since that weren't saved as the 'saved session'. In addition, the inability to more elegantly update the saved session (either by option to 'update session' or offer the existing session name as 'new' saved session name, overwriting the previous, or, some other way, is another indication that this was a good idea that didn't get the development that it deserved before it was released.
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@BoneTone said in Closing saved session multiplies pinned tabs in regular session:
Second, there is the issue that this move happens before the positive confirmation to close the window, and therefore can occur even if the user doesn't actually close the window. If the user has the close window confirmation enabled, the tab gets moved when the close window action is invoked (e.g. via the X button), but the user can cancel that close operation still yet the tab has already been moved to another window. This is clearly a bug.
I'm fairly certain no one has reported the second issue. If someone has, let me know, otherwise I'll report it tomorrow.
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@BoneTone ok OK, terminology issue. I should have said "when you close the window in which you opened the saved session".
To a confused user, this difference isn't significant: the behaviour is completely counterintuitive (you can save a session with pinned tabs in it, and when you reopen it those pinned tabs will be there). But if you happen to close that window using the top right X, the pinned tabs - still present in the saved session - move to some other window you happen to have open. And it's a royal pain to have to unpin and delete those. This is utterly poor behaviour compared to Edge's collections now, that should be a major worry and I really think V should be putting some time into this.
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