Vivaldi 1.15: Missing features



  • Another unimportant update. I think the devs should focus on the functional issues that actually hinder normal browsing experience, before adding new themes and other insignificant stuff..

    • broken bookmark bar - This is one of the the main reason I cannot make Vivaldi my browser of choice. Bookmarks inside folders on the bookmark bar cannot be drag-moved, and dont have right-click menus. In fact, right clicking them does the same as left click (opens the bookmark) which is really bad design (I don't recall similar behavior in any Windows software I've used in many years). Right-clicking should never do the same as left-clicking. It's actually better to just disable right-click altogether, so it doesn't open bookmarks that the user doesn't need to open. It's obvious that when the user right clicks, it's not for the purpose of opening a tab, but to open a context menu.

    • broken tab mute button, which only appears when audio playing. The user should be able to permanently mute any tab at any time, regardless of current audio situation, just like in ALL other browsers. When I really have to mute a tab, I have to wait for the audio to start playing, and then the mute icon appears so I can click it then, which is beyond inconvenient. The whole purpose of mute is that I dont want to hear ANY sound. So having to wait for audio start playing, well that defeats the whole purpose of the mute function. I spend A LOT of time on Twitch on Youtube, watch multiple streams, I mute some tabs, unmute others, but when the mute buttons just disappears when the audio stops, this really makes things very dysfunctional. This is a game-breaker for me. All other browsers have a "mute tab" in the tab context menu, at all times.

    • Non-customizeable address bar. Cannot move buttons around. I'd like to move the backward/forward right next to the address bar. I'd like to move the reload and home buttons between the URL and the seach bar. I want to add a print button to the bar, etc. etc. etc. All these things are possible in Firefox.

    Vivaldi is just not usable for me. Broken bookmark bar and broken tab mute are basics that should have been addressed long time ago.

    I've been waiting eagerly for each update to see if any of this will get fixed, but nothing is happening. This is really disappointing. I will check back in a few updates. I still think Vivaldi has potential, but things are progressing too slowly right now.

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  • @ronyxs said in Vivaldi 1.15 : Just Better.:

    I've been waiting eagerly for each update to see if any of this will get fixed, but nothing is happening.

    Did you see the impressive changelog?



  • @ronyxs said in Vivaldi 1.15 : Just Better.:

    broken tab mute button, which only appears when audio playing.

    Works for me on youtube.com



  • @burbuja Your mute button is there, before you even play a video in the tab???



  • @burbuja: Yes, and none of it addresses my biggest issues.



  • @ilililiilli said in Vivaldi 1.15 : Just Better.:

    Your mute button is there, before you even play a video in the tab???

    No, it is not. It gets visible while playing the video.



  • @burbuja: exactly what I said then. That's a problem.



  • @ronyxs: I agree, the lack of customization on the toolbar makes me more and more annoyed with each new release.



  • @burbuja: You seem to misunderstand the issue, please read carefully. The issue is that mute isn't always there. I should be able to mute a blank tab BEFORE any video is loaded. That's not currently possible.



  • @ronyxs I think it is not a bug, but "feature". I find it just logic this way. Where nothing is, nothing can be muted.



  • @ronyxs: +1 Customization is much needed. Also agree about the mute.



  • @burbuja said:

    Where nothing is, nothing can be muted.

    Not true. In Chrome and Firefox you can mute a tab regardless of what you have loaded in the tab, regardless of any audio playing or not.



  • @ronyxs: and it didn't matter if you call it a bug or a feature. It doesn't work for me, period 🙂



  • @ronyxs First: It should not start automatickly. Thats the real problem. Do you want to be able to mute a text based page? 😮



  • @burbuja: Who is talking about text? Mute option should be available on a tab at all times, like other browsers. That's all. This is useful, when I have several videos loaded (Twitch, Youtube, and many other stream sites).

    • A twitch stream may have a long silent intro. I want to be able to press mute then, but it's missing. It only shows up when the audio starts.
    • Streams take breaks, or video buffers ffrequently. When the audio stops, the mute button disappears again, so I cannot mute it during that time. Problem.

    Other browsers have the mute always.



  • @ronyxs said in Vivaldi 1.15 : Just Better.:

    Other browsers have the mute always.

    Who told you that the behavior has to be the same in all browsers?



  • @burbuja: Nobody told me that, and I never said that. It's just an example of a feature that other browsers handle better than Vivaldi, that's all.



  • @ronyxs Did not you? So why do you use it as a argument and you are sure it would be a bug ...
    I dont get your "logic"



  • @burbuja: I never called it a bug. It's a feature that doesn't work well. This is besides the point.


  • Moderator

    Enough of the arguing already. I have moved the discussion to its own thread.

    You can continue the "discussion" here if you must without disrupting the Blog Announcement any more.

    1. The Context Menu in the Bookmarks Bar, though a popular feature request, it has an easy workaround by managing bookmarks in the panel. It has been said several times by Ayespy that it will take a lot of work to fix.
    2. The request to Mute Tab by Default has just three upvotes. I guess it's unimportant to most users.
    3. I agree that Configurable Toolbars are a much wished for feature, but it will also take a lot of work.

 

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