Vivaldi Developers Spoiled Me!



  • :( :( :( :( :( :( Since I began using Vivaldi at the end of January, I have gotten very spoiled by the Monday releases of the latest snapshots. I really look forward to seeing what new settings and tools they have made available and what bugs have been fixed. It has been like Christmas morning with new packages under the tree. Even though we got the Easter present (Snapshot 1.0.142.32) last Wednesday, I was looking for a new release on Monday, then when nothing showed up, I have been looking constantly today. I have even noticed that the new topics have slowed down dramatically. I have checked the Team Blog and I know that they are getting ready to release Tech Preview 3, but as I said, I have really gotten spoiled with the Monday snapshots.


  • Moderator

    Totally agree. I'm experiencing severe withdrawals at this point, and am considering whether to begin a course of methadone…


  • Vivaldi Team

    Sorry about that. Easter is a big deal in the Nordics and most of the team had some time off from Thursday until Monday. Thus not much was new during that period. But now the team are back and full of energy! IMHO it is good to get some rest and quality time with the family. But there will soon be a new build, just give us a few more days. :)


  • Moderator

    I suspected as much, and I knew Monday would be a day off for you guys, though I didn't know how many days before Easter were typical for days off/office closings. Thanks for the feedback and update. I think my breathing is returning to normal… :lol:



  • @jon:

    Sorry about that. Easter is a big deal in the Nordics and most of the team had some time off from Thursday until Monday. Thus not much was new during that period. But now the team are back and full of energy! IMHO it is good to get some rest and quality time with the family. But there will soon be a new build, just give us a few more days. :)

    Is nice to see you back to the forum

    But I believe that pointing out the obvious wasn't really necessary :cheer:

    I believe that Easter is Easter in most of the western world, here in Italy people traditionally goes to do some barbecue in some country place. So it's the rain that ruins the Monday after Easter, not the lack of a Vivaldi build ;)



  • :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush:

    Jon - I definitely appreciate your response and I am glad that you guys and girls had some down time to spend with friends and families.

    I should have remembered significance of the Easter celebration time from my years in Germany, plus I have a son and a number of grandchildren living in Germany. When I spoke with my son last week he was talking about friends coming over the barbeque they would be doing. Thanks for reminding me.


  • Moderator

    Days off are a much bigger thing in Europe and the Nordics in general, than here in the US. Most of them get several weeks of mandatory vacation time, while we often get little or none.

    I have not had an actual "vacation" since 1999. In '03, the wife and I took a little time and helped my daughter move and renovate her new home 600 miles from here. That was a total of six days, including a weekend. In 2011, the wife and I took 3 days off to travel that same 600 miles and attend the same daughter's wedding. That's it. We can't leave because there's no one to watch the rescue dogs and the horses, and even if there were, we simply can't afford to go anywhere.

    Part of it is working for one's self and having customers who stroke out if they can't reach you, and part of it is just being, like most "middle class" Americans, chronically broke.

    I received and performed work on Fri, Sat and Mon surrounding Easter, and our celebration consisted of a phone call from one daughter and appreciating the facebook posts of another.

    But I don't begrudge my brethren on the more civilized side of the pond their days of rest. I raise a glass to them!



  • As much as I look forward to a new snapshot, it's nice to hear that people around the world actually get time off. Whether it be for religious reasons, or just to get some down time. Days off are the most important thing.

    Like most people in North America, I worked Friday and Monday, and got an email from my boss on the weekend. We simply don't put enough value in time off.


  • Moderator

    You can say that again. No wonder Europeans live longer than we do.



  • Yes, Germans live two years longer on average than Americans, but rest assured that we feel just as stressed out! :woohoo:
    8-11 religious + 3 national holidays + 20-36 days of paid leave/year, access to healthcare and free university education for everyone, unemployment support, financial support for stay-at-home parents for up to 14 months after childbirth, etc. …. still don't make us happy. No reason to ever not complain about all the hardships we face!
    Icelanders' life expectancy, however, exceeds the Germans for another year. :)



  • @Ayespy:

    Days off are a much bigger thing in Europe and the Nordics in general, than here in the US. Most of them get several weeks of mandatory vacation time, while we often get little or none.

    I have not had an actual "vacation" since 1999. In '03, the wife and I took a little time and helped my daughter move and renovate her new home 600 miles from here. That was a total of six days, including a weekend. In 2011, the wife and I took 3 days off to travel that same 600 miles and attend the same daughter's wedding. That's it. We can't leave because there's no one to watch the rescue dogs and the horses, and even if there were, we simply can't afford to go anywhere.

    Part of it is working for one's self and having customers who stroke out if they can't reach you, and part of it is just being, like most "middle class" Americans, chronically broke.

    I received and performed work on Fri, Sat and Mon surrounding Easter, and our celebration consisted of a phone call from one daughter and appreciating the facebook posts of another.

    But I don't begrudge my brethren on the more civilized side of the pond their days of rest. I raise a glass to them!

    It's an usual and endless debate.

    On that matter the world is split in two (and is not just matter of geography).

    There are people that works to live and there are others who lives to work, both types are everywhere but the ratio changes according to the geography, politics, economy and so on.

    Personally I consider the vacation time an human right.


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    The medical science is pretty clear on the matter. Even people who are personally driven to produce need down time. Continual stress is deleterious to mental well-being, and shortens life span. It even promotes obesity.

    Big Money in the US (and in most places for that matter) is unconcerned with human well-being, however, and without laws to protect us, we are at the mercy of slave-driving aristocrats - both directly (because if we work for them they keep us downtrodden) and indirectly (because they hoard wealth, and manipulate governments to make it easier for them to accumulate money, and harder for working people to do so).

    Wealth inequality and wage inequality are actually human health issues. So nations that take this into account in their laws are wise to do so.

    But, really, I'm just happy for people who get reasonable time off. I'd also be happy to have access to it.


  • Vivaldi Translator

    guys… with all respect - KISS (keep it simple and short) :) it's painful to read this and find out that it's even a little bit off-topic :)


  • Moderator

    Heh, heh! We're just wasting time blabbing, because we can't get a new build yet!



  • @Ayespy:

    But, really, I'm just happy for people who get reasonable time off. I'd also be happy to have access to it.

    The bad news the matter is getting worse, practically in most of the world.

    Just because GDP is considered as a synonym of progress, while is not.

    Automation, IT, faster transports and communications should mean more spare time, less work for everyone, but we know is not the case.


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    @The_Solutor:

    @Ayespy:

    But, really, I'm just happy for people who get reasonable time off. I'd also be happy to have access to it.

    The bad news the matter is getting worse, practically in most of the world.

    Just because GDP is considered as a synonym of progress, while is not.

    Automation, IT, faster transports and communications should mean more spare time, less work for everyone, but we know is not the case.

    I think everyone can see this. Gains in efficiency are accruing exclusively to the top 1%. Rather than everyone working less and earning more to reflect a shared reward for the efficiency gains, more people are being fired from good jobs because "fewer people can do them" and then these fewer people are worked harder for no more pay. The rest are idled or sidelined to shit jobs, where those who are still comfortable heap scorn on them from a distance because they "aren't qualified" or "don't work hard enough" to get their piece of the ever-shrinking pie.

    Even that former paragon of social democracy, Great Britain, has fallen under the control of the Tories, who are busily dismantling the social safety net, idling workers, and heaping tax breaks on the rich - the "job creators," who "create" zero-hour contract jobs for workers, don't give them hours, but then the workers qualify for less or no dole, because they are "employed" (at jobs where they are not allowed to work). It's insane.

    I'm thankful I work for myself, but not all THAT thankful, because it's still a constant struggle.



  • @Ayespy:

    @The_Solutor:

    @Ayespy:

    Even that former paragon of social democracy, Great Britain, has fallen under the control of the Tories, who are busily dismantling the social safety net, idling workers, and heaping tax breaks on the rich - the "job creators," who "create" zero-hour contract jobs for workers, don't give them hours, but then the workers qualify for less or no dole, because they are "employed" (at jobs where they are not allowed to work). It's insane.

    Yeah, tell me about it.



  • @louise:

    Yes, Germans live two years longer on average than Americans, but rest assured that we feel just as stressed out! :woohoo:
    8-11 religious + 3 national holidays + 20-36 days of paid leave/year, access to healthcare and free university education for everyone, unemployment support, financial support for stay-at-home parents for up to 14 months after childbirth, etc. …. still don't make us happy. No reason to ever not complain about all the hardships we face!
    Icelanders' life expectancy, however, exceeds the Germans for another year. :)

    Then the only conclusion is that it still isn't enough time off.

    @The_Solutor:

    @Ayespy:

    But, really, I'm just happy for people who get reasonable time off. I'd also be happy to have access to it.

    The bad news the matter is getting worse, practically in most of the world.

    Just because GDP is considered as a synonym of progress, while is not.

    Automation, IT, faster transports and communications should mean more spare time, less work for everyone, but we know is not the case.

    Indeed. The goal of "progress" should be for people to not have to work. But the way things are, if you value time off you're seen as lazy, or even unemployable.

    Instead of using better technology to improve peoples lives, it seems that economic development is only serving to push businesses into more confined locations (the big jobs are in the big cities), which makes things more expensive for the workers (the cost of living in big cities is ridiculous), and making traffic worse (all the traffic is heading to and away from the same few places during rush hour).

    And despite our supposed progress, we don't have enough money to improve our infrastructure or healthcare or anything that makes our lives better.



  • Biggest Lies -

    Your check is in the mail.
    Tax Collector to Citizen - I am only here to help.

    AND

    Computers will save us time and we will not need paper in the future.



  • Dont blame the computers, they are saving us huge amounts of time. Its the Humans pushing the Humans harder to make up for it.
    Computers are just the scape goats ;)


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