Open letter to Jon concerning M3

luetage

@motionshot It's "soon" since end of 2016, I wouldn't hold my breath for a definite date. They will just release it as surprise in snapshot at some point and then we will have to shut up

greybeard

@gwen-dragon I'll have a Châteauneuf-du-Pape, withr our meal and thenwe can sit back with a dram of Cardu in the library.

Codehunter

Another month, same question... ?

Please excuse me, its very important to me.

EDIT: Sorry I've seen the latest posts after replying.

luetage

@codehunter You won't get an answer. They will do a surprise release when it's presentable. It's completely pointless asking developers for a timeline, because they won't dare raising any hopes.

Codehunter

@luetage I think its not senseless to remember the devs for our needings

Pesala

I think the new mail-client needs a name more colourful than M3. That's fine for devs or those familiar with M2, who can know that it is a continuation from the earlier client. How about something connected with the Vivaldi name:

Vivaldi Symphony
Vivaldi Duet
etc.?

Motionshot

@pesala said in Open letter to Jon concerning M3:

I think the new mail-client needs a name more colourful than M3. That's fine for devs or those familiar with M2, who can know that it is a continuation from the earlier client. How about something connected with the Vivaldi name:

Vivaldi Symphony

Vivaldi Duet

etc.?

That sure would be nice. Although I think M3 is fine as well. Maybe we could keep both names, kinda like how, for example, on GNOME the file manager is now called Files but the repo name and internal name is still Nautilus. So maybe we could give the email client a colorful name but refer to it internally and on the forums as M3?

Blackbird

@pesala I'm kind of partial to Vivaldi Melody... it has a mail-like ring to it.

saudiqbal

Looks like M3 is coming in 2020.

ghpy

@saudiqbal said in Open letter to Jon concerning M3:

Looks like M3 is coming in 2020.

There will be a joint ceremony for the presentation of M3 and the opening of BER
(for non-Germans: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Brandenburg_Airport#Timeline )

zhnujm

Oh come on, you know its much easier to build an international airport than to create a new mail client from scratch

luetage

@zhnujm Well, there are far more international airports than browsers with built in mail clients, therefore your assumption must be correct.

Pesala

@zhnujm Not with a team of only 12 workers, and various other staff such as project managers, and media people. Building a new airport takes years of planning and a team of thousands.

Para-Noid

All of these inquiries about M3 release date. And the one simple answer...

"It will be released when it's ready. And only when it's ready."

I want a finished product. It should be polished and shiny and easy to look at.
Aesthetic pleasing. And very functional.

zhnujm

@pesala said in Open letter to Jon concerning M3:

Building a new airport takes years of planning and a team of thousands.

I think thats missing at the BER. :lol

And i still think the mail client will get dropped.
But Vivaldi is still my favorite brower because of tab stacking.

luetage

@gwen-dragon Spelling checkers aren't as helpful as one would think, this reminds me of "candidate for a pullet surprise". A classic

Codehunter

Sadly, after years of waiting for M3 I'm finally moved to Thunderbird. As i wrote in my opening post in this thread, it's a decision for years. It was impossible to continue using M2 because security leaks and permanently crashing after few minutes.

Believe me that this decision was not easy but neccessary. And no, i will not went back to M3 if it releases sooner or later.

So sad

Ayespy

@codehunter It is sad, especially that M2 was unstable for you. It is completely stable here. It is, in fact, still my default email. Unfortunately, there has never been any choice as to how early to release M3. It is a project, at its core, which is larger and more complex than a browser. And though some dozens of us use it daily, it is genuinely not ready for public release. And although some tire of hearing this, I'm sure, it really does grow closer and closer to release quality all the time. Basically every single new internal tester release contains updates and fixes for M3.

ugly

I'm still using M2, but for the newly released Linux Mint 19, there are dependencies that I have to ignore in order to install. Seems some of the packages are obsolete now, so it is getting more difficult to stick with it.

burnout426

@codehunter Thunderbird isn't so bad. I switched to it from M2 years ago. You can do almost all of the same things. You just set them up differently. You can also do a lot of things M2 can't. The downside is that Thunderbird x64 still isn't a first-class citizen.

@codehunter said in Open letter to Jon concerning M3:

And no, i will not went back to M3 if it releases sooner or later.

With Thunderbird's feature set, it'll be hard for M3 to compete. But, M3 could still be fun.