Abusive experiences (pop-up, pop-unders, redirects) blocker



  • With Vivaldi 1.14 now based on Chromium 64, is this supposed to be working or is there a place where I must/can manually enable it?

    https://blog.chromium.org/2017/11/expanding-user-protections-on-web.html
    https://blog.chromium.org/2017/12/chrome-64-beta-stronger-pop-up-blocker_14.html

    tl:dr It's a new Google feature that, for example, blocks pop-ups from opening when you click page elements that aren't supposed to open pop-ups like video's play buttons, little Xs that are supposed to dismiss messages, or even empty page space that's programmed to open pop-ups without the user's intention.

    It's an amazing initiative...



  • it's actually enabled by default and can be disabled in vivaldi://flags
    see
    https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/186899
    https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/185858



  • @ian-coog

    This is good, but this option seems to refer only to the redirect protection not to the pop-up blocker.

    As I understood the pop-up/pop-under blocker is based on a blacklist maintained by Google (like the already existing and utilized malware and phishing protection) since the block occurs in a per-site basis as they explain in the blog and sites need to use Google's tools to verify their sites and remove the abusive behavior to get rid of the block.

    I guess the abusive behavior can't be as easily detected in the browser side as checking whether an iframe wants to redirect to a third-party domain can, so the only way is maintaining a blacklist. Since the list is presumably owned by Google I hope I can check with Vivaldi whether they'll or are using that list already.


  • Moderator

    Slow down Rafael. I can't see anything constructive on your topics. They are a bunch of complains and worthless comparisons.



  • The question is if anyone should really trust in google providing useful lists. I mean they do a good job at phishing and malware protection, and Vivaldi benefits from this like other chromium browser, but blocking ads is another story altogether. Google is a provider of advertisement and has its own program in Google adsense. They could potentially abuse this position of power. Here an interesting article about it: https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/google-adblocking-competition

    I'd say use an adblocking extension or simply run a hosts file to block domains, you don't need google to decide which ads are fit to be viewed.


  • Moderator

    The file /etc/hosts is an operating system file, hence has an advantage over any ad-block - third party. There is not any kind of block content on my system, I don't visit any ad-infested website.



  • @lamarca /etc/hosts can only block complete hosts, and not individual paths or files if on that host there are contents you'd like to see. Poof - the complete host is gone.

    Ad-block extensions have the advantage that they can be fine-tuned, e.g. forbid this host completely, forbid images from that host, allow/deny js on this or that domain. Oh, and /etc/hosts doesn't work at all if numeral IP urls are used.

    @lamarca said in Abusive experiences (pop-up, pop-unders, redirects) blocker:

    I don't visit any ad-infested website.

    Sorry, but as long as you visit the "open" internet, thats almost impossible... (and I count trackers and tracker pixels and the lot in the same category as ads)


  • Moderator

    @morg42 said in Abusive experiences (pop-up, pop-unders, redirects) blocker:

    /etc/hosts can only block complete hosts.....

    Perhaps on your platform (Mac) the hosts file runs like the way you described, not on mine.

    @morg42 said in Abusive experiences (pop-up, pop-unders, redirects) blocker:

    and not individual paths or files if on that host there are contents you'd like to see....

    Based on what can you assume the host file is primitive and unable totally block the domain, images included.

    @morg42 said in Abusive experiences (pop-up, pop-unders, redirects) blocker:

    Sorry, but as long as you visit the "open" internet, thats almost impossible......

    I am not an ignorant.


  • Moderator

    Last but not least, my post was not about ad-block, I just made a polite request to Rafael.

    Topic closed.


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