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@Ayespy said in M3 mail & RSS-reader:
That tsunami should be minimized to the greatest degree possible, partly by ensuring that no user, anywhere, suffers a catastrophic failure and loses many, or all, of their emails. Data loss is an annoyance in a browser. It can even be a severe annoyance. With email, as it can contain one's life or business records, data loss is unacceptable.
As long as there is a backup functionality that allows you to do a daily backup, most people will be able to live with a certain risk.
It should not be so hard to create a database that allows for a certain amount of "undo", i.e. rolling back each step. It might be wasteful first, but the more confidence grows, the less frequent that feature will be needed until it's finally either not needed anymore, or can be transformed into some kind of daily backup.I personally have my mail copied from a vanity address to my provider's address and there I view it locally, where my Opera M2-mail client buffers it, also by cell phone has some buffer and there I can read my mail too, that's not so uncommon. So whatever happens to my mail locally in "M3", I'd not go broke because of it. I think I'm not the only one who has some redundancy in their mail chain.
I'm not afraid to use a version that isn't perfect yet. I remember the days when M2 was young. As long as you tell people what to expect, you should trust these people to make a conscious decision. These early adopters will help you to find problems that your QA couldn't find and they will make your product better. -
@brixomatic RE: email backup
Probably my favorite was Powermail which would save your entire mailbox as a .txt file. Small, portable, and can be read by pretty much anything.
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I seriously suspect that Vivali team have strayed from the idea.
I don't think neither stability is a big issue nor unpredictable problems are worth to 5 years.@Ayespy catastrophic failure? I had lost my laptop, one of stolen one of broken .. formatted windows several times.
I know how you feel too. But this is not a valid argument . If M3 was released 5 years before or if it will be released 5 years later you may expect feature request and bug fix tsunamiIn any case, it'a great job. Hope to see M3 soon
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@morla Don't worry, they haven't strayed from the initial idea. They have created a stable base and are now integrating the most important features, unfortunately it takes time.
Surely at first it won't make everyone happy, maybe because after so many years the expectations will be very high, but it has all the potential to become a great product. I'm very tempted to use it for my primary accounts but it's still a little too early.
As @Jon said, it's only a matter of time before it's in a snapshot. -
@Folgore101 said in M3 mail & RSS-reader:
As @Jon said, it's only a matter of time before it's in a snapshot.I hope it will be soon and not only in form of a snapshot as Opera + M2 give more trouble each month. Most M2-users will probably be forced to use a standalone mail-client if M3 takes much more time to come.
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@ghpy said in M3 mail & RSS-reader:
@Folgore101 said in M3 mail & RSS-reader:
As @Jon said, it's only a matter of time before it's in a snapshot.I hope it will be soon and not only in form of a snapshot as Opera + M2 give more trouble each month. Most M2-users will probably be forced to use a standalone mail-client if M3 takes much more time to come.
It will be a flag you can enable or an experiment. You can use it from that time on, but it still a technical preview.
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@ghpy said in M3 mail & RSS-reader:
@Folgore101 said in M3 mail & RSS-reader:
As @Jon said, it's only a matter of time before it's in a snapshot.I hope it will be soon and not only in form of a snapshot as Opera + M2 give more trouble each month. Most M2-users will probably be forced to use a standalone mail-client if M3 takes much more time to come.
Speaking of which. M2 started to refuse to allow me to reply to certain e-mails or forward e-mails in general unless I set it to "prefer plain text" (As opposed to html view). It shows the reply/forward form but I cannot edit the text at all unless I switch it to "prefer plain text" before hitting R or F keys to reply or forward. Any ideas what might be causing this? I am not aware of any changes to my local setup, but it is true we changed our e-mail hosting.
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We have just launched Vivaldi Mail & Vivaldi Feed Reader in today's snapshot. Let us know what you think.
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We have just launched Vivaldi Mail & Vivaldi Feed Reader in today's snapshot. Let us know what you think.
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@Gwen-Dragon thanks for your input. We're super grateful if you share it as a separate request.
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I just want to say I appreciate it has not been closed and marked as done like my other request
I've put my thoughts under the blog post but can copy them here too, probably clean up a bit if that's needed
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@Gaëlle I was very excited, but I have only gmail accounts, so I cannot use it
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@peefy I have GMail accounts and I'm using it...
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How? It doesn't work for me even if I enable less secure apps (https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en).
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@bimlas I don't know for sure. All I know is that I'm getting email notifications when email arrives, click on them and see the email in Vivaldi
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I think you are in the lucky first 100 user:
Google has (after 9 months) still not approved our account access Consent Screen, thus currently the number of accounts that can be logged in to GMail IMAP and Google CalDAV with Vivaldi’s client at any one time, is limited to 100
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@pauloaguia What exact server settings and port settings for gmail do you use? Thank you!
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@Gwen-Dragon okay, sorry!
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A more generalized feed, please look : A generalized and more user-centered feed ; data streams monitoring (mail, html differences, rss feed)
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