I want Vivaldi to add a mail window in the sidebar



  • This will make it easier for me to check my email. Do you agree with me?



  • @jiangyc Go to your email inbox, right-click and add it as a web panel. You might also wish to assign a separate width to that panel from the context menu on the Panel Toolbar's icon to give you more space for email.

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  • @pesala This is a good way


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    @jiangyc Eventually, you're going to get a whole mail client in the sidebar :)



  • I only joined recently and haven't been lurking the boards very actively before.

    Is that client still targeted for 2.0 (i.e. when it's ready) or is more known these days?


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    @caine Internal testers and staff are testing it (have been for months) but no date is set for its release. It does get better every day, but it's not ready for public testing yet. I think release of integrated email will trigger the jump to ver. 2.0, rather than the reverse. It's not time-driven.



  • @ayespy Okay thanks, that is exactly what I expected.



  • @ayespy

    I don't know if I want a built-in mail client too. Extra features are nice. But at the same time, I don't want the browser to be a bloated Swiss army knife—a browser of many things, but master of none. Already, sometimes V takes a long time (30+sec) to launch for me. Only fix I found so far is uninstall/reinstall V.

    For me, I would value speed and optimization above anything with the already built-in features.



  • @0blivion The email client is not bloat for most of us. It's the primary reason why we switched to Vivaldi. As in the days of Old Opera, if you don't use a feature it does not slow down the program or use any significant amount of RAM. Feature are the reasons for Vivaldi's existence. Otherwise, just use Chrome or some other streamlined browser.

    If startup is slow (30 seconds or more from cold start) or more than 5 seconds from warm boot, then something is wrong with your setup, or you're loading way too many tabs.

    If 5 seconds is too slow, you're just too impatient. Who cares about 3 more seconds?



  • @pesala
    Well when I read about before coming to V, an email client was never mentioned. What got me was the tab stacking, and the features richness of chrome but snappier. And now that syncing has finally come, a sorely needed feature that kept many people myself included from using V full-time, stop trying to throw in the kitchen sink too. Whats wrong with using web-mail on the web-panel?



  • And I'll just assume that an import from M2 will be possible and the new mail client will also use the fantastic database/view concept that made M2 so wonderful.
    Are any of these points common knowledge that I might have missed? :-)



  • @0blivion This is what Jon said to TechCrunch on the launch of the first technical preview of Vivaldi, nearly three years ago now:

    In the long run, Vivaldi will also include a built-in mail client. That seems like a throwback to an earlier generation of browsers, but it’s something Opera long included in its browser and that, according to Tetzchner, is something he always liked to have in a browser himself.

    “I don’t think webmail is for everyone,” he told me. “It’s definitely not for the advanced user. We find that lots of users have multiple mail accounts and they don’t tie together and when you have the mail client built into the browser, it feels more natural.” Vivaldi will soon offer its users a Vilvaldi.net email address, but the mail client will work with any email account.

    I still launch Opera 12.18 every day which checks for email every 10 minutes. I could log in to my web mail with Vivaldi, but I have to remember to do it, and it takes a few seconds, and sometimes fails. With a built-in client, you don't need to think about it. You launch your browser, and when an email arrives, you switch to that tab to see if it needs immediate attention, then resume your browsing. One program to launch, and one window to watch. (Opera is running on my secondary monitor).



  • @pesala I see your point. And I can also see many people wanting it, and admittedly I would be using it as well when it comes available. I just worry that when you try to do too many things at once it falters, that's all.

    Incidentally, I did come from Opera, and still use it from time to time. But, I felt I had to move away from it when they got bought off by a Chinese company. I'm sorry but as a whole, they still got some ethical practice issues.


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    @0blivion If you don't want it, you don't have to enable it. It adds about 3 MB to the program download and, if you never turn it on, then as far as the browser is concerned, it's as though it never existed. Absolutely zero memory, processor cycles or web packets are consumed by a non-activated mail client. The Mail team and the Browser team are separate, and the Browser team is always focused on not just features, but functionality (including speed and optimization).



  • @ayespy That sounds awesome! Exactly the kind of assurance for those who don't want it. Thanks!



  • @0blivion Regarding your uninstall/install vivaldi again problem to speed up the start time. You might want to try the following the next time you want to do this.
    1.) Clean the list of finished downloads in the side panel (that has been reported a few times as an issue - don't know if this is fixed yet)
    If this doesn't do the trick than
    2.) Open a new tab click on history and hit the brush icon on the right side and clean your history, cache, cookies&storage and applications cache.

    No success guaranteed but it should be worth a try.
    ; )



  • @zaibon Hi and thanks Zaibon. I knew about the clearing cache but never thought about the download history. And now that I think about it was quite substantial then.

    As you can imagined, I got sick and tired of the the whole uninstall/reinstall routine and wanted a more permanent solution, especially now that V is my full-time browser thanks to the implementation of syncing. So I made a 1gb ramdisk and threw V on it. Now launch time is 1-2 sec—as fast/er Edge which sits on SSD, and as you know is natively part of Windows and gives it an edge (haha get it?). So now, anything related to V occurs on the ramdisk, this means caching, histories, etc. I also made it so that if I shutdown/restart the PC all settings, configurations, and histories are retained.

    If anyone is interested in having a setup like this I might be able to write up a more detailed instructions.


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