What’s in a term: Snapshot vs Stable
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@xyzzy: I have just one question about that. I reinstalled Windows last Friday. Normally, I use Snapshot versions (x64), but when I wanted to download the latest Snapshot version, Edge (don't laugh...) refused to download the latest snapshot and I had to take the stable version, which is earlier that the stable version (stable: 1.13.1008.32 - Snapshot: 1.13.1008.30). Installing the next Snapshot over a stable version is possible and safe (by saving my profile), or is it better to remove the stable version and install the Snapshot version?
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@nerdebeu: I don't think anything changed between builds 1008.30 and 1008.32 other than the branding and the update channel changing from Snapshot to Stable, so the profiles should be compatible. That said, if I were you, I'd remain on the Stable channel for now; there's no advantage to switching. When the 1.14 Snapshots get released, you can then decide whether or not to switch release channels at that time.
As for backing up your profile, that's always a good idea!
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@irontiger said:
I want a full integration of both version on my machine...
Problem: Which one should e.g. open files from the explorer or urls from other applications?
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Thanks for the explanation.
But I have a question.
Why not make the snapshot and stable to create their own profile during their installation?
With Opera, I can install Opera Dev, Opera Beta and Opera all at the same time without tweaking the installation.
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Many people ask the difference between Snapshot and Stable. Another doubt is between Beta and RC.
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Many people ask the difference between Snapshot and Stable. Another doubt is between Beta and RC.
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Could the snapshots create profiles that have next in the name (I know that is a Presto throwback)?
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@chas4 If you install standalone, you could of course name the folder Vivaldi Next.
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Olgo, zdravim Vas z Argentiny a dekuji za vysvetleni.
[Note] Hi Tonda, I deleted the duplicated post below.
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@olgaa Thank you for the explanation in the blog article.
I'd like to propose to add some kind of ... well, disclaimer, in want of a better word, to the download section of the snapshot blog.
Not only over the current outage of the (beta!) sync service, but all over the place there seem to be quite a lot of people who are using snapshot versions apparently without realizing that with Vivaldi, having the highest = newest release version means using a not-stable-and-functioning-certified piece of software (albeit shining brightly ).
Maybe a short paragraph mentioning that in snapshot releases, functions are bound not to work properly and I you don't want that, please follow the provided link to download the stable release?
Otherwise, I'm happy you're releasing snapshots and letting us more or less take part in ongoing development. In return, I don't care losing my bookmarks now and then...
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@morg42 said in What’s in a term: Snapshot vs Stable:
I'd like to propose to add some kind of ... well, disclaimer, in want of a better word, to the download section of the snapshot blog.
This is a nice idea in theory and while it might even double up as some kind of salvatory clause for Vivaldi ("We told you that it may destroy all files on your computer and melt your CPU to slag, didn't we?"), I can confirm from experience that it does not stop anyone from using it. Usually nobody reads it or simply ignores it, because many people were trained to see "beta" the same as "stable" because some huge companies like Google (and some others too) slapped it for years on almost every product or service they offered and such watering the meaning down.
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@quhno Sadly, I'm well aware of this. Moreover, many companies ship software of alpha or beta quality and label it as stable, so that might have to be expected.
Still, for those who care to read, this might at least be a clear indication of what they are about to do. And I'm far away of recommending salvatory clauses...
I am not inclined, however, to give up the hope that at least 5% of repeating user questions regarding non-functional beta features might be spared for the moderators
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thx olga for this post and explanations!
"A word of caution, if you try out a Snapshot and then switch back to Stable that could lead to a corrupted profile on some platforms, so beware."
i presume this means that both vivaldi-stable and vivaldi-snapshot use the same config files on windows and mac systems.
on my linux system they seem to be separate:
~/.config/vivaldi
~/.config/vivaldi-snapshotso i presume, for that reason linux systems are fine.
possibly, on windows/mac the stable config folder can be copied and replaced in case something breaks?
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I'd like to see a beta channel too with only RC and "stable" snapshots. But I need js mods preservation beforehand.
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Install the Snapshot as a Standalone Version so that it does not interfere with your settings for the Stable release.
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@Pesala said in What’s in a term: Snapshot vs Stable:
Install the Snapshot as a Standalone Version so that it does not interfere with your settings for the Stable release.
thx pesala - i'm on linux so i'm ok.
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@pradagio said in What’s in a term: Snapshot vs Stable:
@Pesala said in What’s in a term: Snapshot vs Stable:
Install the Snapshot as a Standalone Version so that it does not interfere with your settings for the Stable release.
thx pesala - i'm on linux so i'm ok.
never heard of standalone for windows, but then i'm used to win95 and win98.You can always choose to install Vivaldi as default or as standalone (in any file location you want) under the advanced settings. I haven't done a new installation for a year or two so I don't know if anything changed recently...
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We also want to make sure that every Stable release includes a set of useful features.
Every Stable release? That scares me. That makes it sound like you'd delay critical security patches, to make sure that the Stable release include a set of useful features.
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@eggcorn No, Stable "updates" have been issued to address security updates.
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@tbgbe Than it's a poor choice or words.