When comes a New Snapshot?



  • It has been about a month since the last snapshot. Are there plans for a new v1.x snapshot or will there be a v2.x beta test?
    No news from the Vivaldi team is not what users need. We like to be kept in the loop. Silence is not golden. Silence can be deafening. Post something, anything in the blog. The silence is unbearable.


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    @para-noid There's one on the way.



  • You'll find a major part of the explanation for the delay here: https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/167809



  • @blackbird Thanks for that link, I knew that it was something to do with a change in Chromium, but not exactly why. At least that relaxes me somewhat. Hope it works out.



  • It is expected to be handled by other Chromium 'apps' (Yandex, Maxthon, etc)


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    @catweazle Yeah, no.



  • @blackbird said in New Snapshot?:

    You'll find a major part of the explanation for the delay here: https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/167809

    Thanks for the link. I figured that something was going on. I just didn't know what. I pay attention to just two boards; the Windows and the Snapshot boards. Maybe I should take a peek in the All Platforms board.



  • @ayespy said in New Snapshot?:

    @para-noid There's one on the way.

    Thanks! Nice to know. I'm ready for it.
    Any word about v2.x?


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    @para-noid No. Vivaldi does not time-line things by major version number. There are no calendar targets to reach major versions.



  • @para-noid said in New Snapshot?:

    Any word about v2.x?

    No, we are at 1.13 now. 2.x? In some years? Who knows what version numbering will bring us. ;)



  • @ayespy said in New Snapshot?:

    @para-noid No. Vivaldi does not time-line things by major version number. There are no calendar targets to reach major versions.

    @gwen-dragon said in New Snapshot?:

    @para-noid said in New Snapshot?:

    Any word about v2.x?

    No, we are at 1.13 now. 2.x? In some years? Who knows what version numbering will bring us. ;)

    Just asking. I know synch is in the works. I was thinking the next "really big major" release would be v2.x
    But I'd be more than happy with any release whether it be fixes or new features.

    I did not intend to start a storm. I just wanted to know why there wasn't any news.


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    @para-noid There is a major rewrite underway. Oddly, this will not increment version numbers, but rather will simply roll out pretty much as though nothing had happened. It's just a "making things work the way they have to" rewrite. And it's not one Vivaldi even knew they were going to have to do, until Chromium changed directions.

    The next two MAJOR projects to come to completion will be sync and email. I, personally, do not expect sync to push a major version number increment - but it 's not up to me. I DO expect the introduction of email to push a major version number increment.

    We are closing in on completion of both sync and email. It's anyone's guess which one will release first. But the version-number increment will be driven by the completion of work - not vice-versa.

    And, unfortunately, it's simply impossible to predict "when" this or that will reach a releasable state, even roughly. So we are all pretty much in the position of waiting for the surprise release of every change. I think you understand. :)



  • I've been using Vivaldi since 1.2.xxx and with each snapshot we/"I" the user get(s) a little more anxious.
    In todays world everybody wants everything "yesterday". Getting something "today" is always too late.



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  • @para-noid said in New Snapshot?:

    The silence is unbearable

    <<she knows she is being naughty for her wanton OT, but she blithely posts away anyway...>>

    Au contraire. I love the silence, specifically The Roaring Silence. A truly magnificent album; Manfred Mann's Earth Band at their very best, IMO.

    Alternatively, maybe you meant The Silence, in which case it'd be easier for me to agree with you. They are arguably some of the most creepy monsters that Doctor Who [who? why, The Doctor, of course] has ever faced... albeit IMO the all-time scariest are The Weeping Angels.

    Teehee.



  • @para-noid Exactly. I kinda don't like the current state of work of companies. Throwing new versions every few days, either mobile or desktop software. It put people into nonstop expectation, hurry. For me it is like, they write software with one menu, release it. Then two days later, look, we have added second menu, release it. IMO, that way of developing is like opened gateway to continuously write unfinished software. Does anybody remember 7-10 years back? Released one finished version for some time and thats it. Next update few months later.



  • @enc0re said in New Snapshot?:

    ... I kinda don't like the current state of work of companies. Throwing new versions every few days, either mobile or desktop software. It put people into nonstop expectation, hurry. ... Does anybody remember 7-10 years back? Released one finished version for some time and thats it. Next update few months later.

    I remember and lived through those days - and even further back when program updates sometimes were issued only yearly or less often via mailed packages of floppies. One major thing that's now different, however, is the sheer magnitude of changes occurring on any given day in the computer universe. We've moved from a rather sparcely-populated technical world with just a handful of companies slowly and quietly cranking out desktop hardware and software, with inter-coordination between companies only occuring by phone calls or mail in an atmosphere of little or no public networking, into an entirely different realm.

    Personal computing has exploded from a techno-niche into a major, increasingly-mobile, mass market. Mass manufacturing (and software production is a subset of manufacturing) has moved from batch-building specific model designs to mechanisms for continuous flow and continual product improvement. Communications within and between cooperating companies is now electronic with almost-instant exchanges of massive electronic data sets.

    Along the way, consumers entered the marketplace en masse, and online activities have now come to dominate large parts of many people's lives. Along with that explosion of usage has come a corresponding explosion of hacking and data theft. There is now constant pressure on companies to keep their software abreast of both new partner developments, competitors' improvements, and the parade of daily revelations of software vulnerabilities.

    The net effect has been to virtually force software (especially those products facing the online universe) to go to continual product redesigning and updating. However wistfully one might look back to the quieter, simpler times of DOS 3.2 and Lotus spreadsheets - or any other early period - that world (along with all its less-remembered limitations and irritations) is irretrievably gone.



  • I have also started to wonder when a new snapshot is coming. :clock230:



  • There were two earlier this week!



  • I'm still on 1.13.971.8.
    I did a check for updates, and it says I am up to date.

    My updates must be broken.


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