Two awesome new features – Vivaldi Browser Snapshot 1.12.947.3
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Whilst the download speed in the downloads panel is very welcome, I would prefer to see it in the downloads bars itself and showing downloads speed for every simultaneous downloads... so I could see several download speeds at a glance instead of click each download to see their download speed at bottom...
Example:
Let's vote: https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/158129
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@kurai: This! I mean I could live without Mail built-in into the browser since I'm able to haveVall my e-mail centralized on a single webmail provider, such as Gmail, and it works pretty well. However, Sync between Vivaldi Desktop instance is a must have but the ability to sync with mobile browsers would also be VERY VERY welcome!
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@petersaints Still a work in progress because sync needs some infrastructure - and the infrastructure needs to be 100% solid and tight. We don't want to loose or distribute our valuable data in the wild, don't we?
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@saudiqbal: I can also confirm this. Just came to check if someone else mentioned it after I noticed this issue.
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This is not a complaint, nor a criticism, but merely a request for explanation.
To all those who for months/years have been asking for download speeds, & now with this SS have posted ebullient thanks or constructive suggestions, would you please kindly jot down here some of the reasons this seems to be important to you? I have never understood this, & still do not "get" it.
Here's my simplistic thinking, which clearly is defective otherwise presumably i'd also give a damn about dl speeds in the panel. If i decide i want to dl a file from somewhere, then ipso facto i have decided that this file has some "value" to me, irrespective of how fast or slow it downloads. As such, having already made that value judgement, i initiate the dl. Though not exhaustive, i imagine that factors governing how soon [or not] i will have said file available for my use, include its size, its server location, my ISP, my VPN, the utter incompetence of the malfeasant Australian misgovernment that has condemned its citizens to obsolete 3rd World "broadband" technology little better than a string between two tin cans, etc. I cannot control any of those factors [except admittedly i could connect my VPN to a different server], so in practical terms, whatever speed i get for this putative file is the speed i get at that particular date & time as dictated by the gods of 1s & 0s, uncontrollable by me.
Therefore, in what way does V telling me that my dl speed is peaking at 0.001 bits per month [if it's a good day, without rain & too much wind], actually help me? For what reasons should i also feel the apparent joy about this feature that others here feel?
OK, maybe i did lie a bit, & sneaked in the odd inferred criticism, but hopefully nobody noticed...
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@steffie said in Two awesome new features – Vivaldi Browser Snapshot 1.12.947.3:
I have never understood this, & still do not "get" it.
The only explanation I cam across so far was that some files can be downloaded via different servers, so if one is slow, you can stop that download and try another. However, as I pointed out then, if it's slow you can see that it's slow from the progress bar without having to know exactly how slow.
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@pesala "if it's slow you can see that it's slow from the progress bar without having to know exactly how slow." ... yes, exactly as i see it as well. Hence my puzzlement.
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@steffie Anyway, here in Oz, i can count the individual bits as they creep out of the cable, into my modem, thence to my pc. They make a soft wheezing groaning noise, as each one pops out about once each Halleys Comet circuit.
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@regnas: +1
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@steffie Modems - the original "Tweets"
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I still won't use Accent Color feature, but it's very good decision to make it available to be less bright - it wasn't usable at 100% bright. Might be even I didn't disable it if this feature would be from the beginning :).
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While we're at Downloads panel. I'd love to have "Delete all invalid" or something option. Currently there is "Delete all downloaded", which clears all downloads and I'd like to clear files that no longer exists in target folder (I download files to various folders and often (re)move them as needed later outside of Vivaldi).
It's nice that Vivaldi shows such files as semi-transparent, but option to remove all of these would be really, really nice. And probably easy to implement too.
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@steffie Although like you I'm not missing the download speed thing, it can sometimes be useful to see that the server is very slow - if I know my max speed is about 1.2MB/s and things usually come in in the hundreds of KB/s, then a glance at the download list showing something crawling in at just a few KB/s quickly shows you you can better cancel that download and find an alternative.
Pesala's idea of the download bar is surprising, since that's kind of opposite to the mentality we're used to from the old Opera days... Why should I have to sit and watch the download bar and try to interpret that (which would be very hard if it's a file of say a gigabyte - it would take so long for the bar to move that I wouldn't even know if it was coming in slowly or not) when our beloved browser usually informs its users. Relying on a graphic is the kind of dumbing down I expect from Edge, not Vivaldi!
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@ayespy
It still happens here. Memory is slowly eaten. Left it at 1.5GB last night. This morning it had reached 4GB and Vivalidi just displayed a big black window. I also noticed a lot of "ghost" processes - with new one being created as I was watching the task list.
Here is the Task List from Vivaldi at startup. I don't use a lot of tabs - normally 10-15. I have been running the same extensions for months without any problems.
Her we go again ....:
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@mossman Ok, thanks, i can accept that line of reasoning, i think. That said, i still suspect that i can already identify if my download is slow or not, even without this new feature... but i do accept this info certainly can't hurt to also have.
Re your "shows you you can better cancel that download and find an alternative"... i do have a practical problem with this. Sometimes maybe i can find an alternative source, but i suggest that the majority of the time i cannot... hence my OP's mentioning that i basically just have to tolerate the snail-like d/l unless i abandon my desire for that file. Still, it's not all bad; during the prolonged wait for dl to finish i have stacks of time to swear, curse, hiss & spit at my incompetent federal misgovernment.
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@steffie said in Two awesome new features – Vivaldi Browser Snapshot 1.12.947.3:
Sometimes maybe i can find an alternative source, but i suggest that the majority of the time i cannot... hence my OP's mentioning that i basically just have to tolerate the snail-like d/l unless i abandon my desire for that file.
Well I can't think of concrete examples, but I have definitely had cases where I'm looking for a certain file and I've just used Google and then clicked the sites listed without knowing if they are reliable or not. Then I've had to try a few since the file wasn't coming in from the first couple.
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@pesala For me the progress bar is the eye candy, not the speed display.
If you have to download files that are several GB in size (which I do on a regular base and that is not an option but for work) you will not see anything moving on the progress bar for a long time. It makes a huge difference if the route I've got is 1 MByte per second or 5. I definitely do not want to stare at the progress bar for 15 minutes to guess if I have got a fast or a slow route because I can and should do more productive things in the meantime ... -
@quhno Even with a large file, it is obvious within a matter of seconds if the download is progressing smoothly.
If your connection speed is slow, then you can get on with your work, and check after a minute or two to see if its moving. I just don't get it. People are well accustomed to their expected download speed and know roughly how long it will take to download a large file. You do not need to waste even a minute to find out that the download is unusually slow.
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@pesala said in Two awesome new features – Vivaldi Browser Snapshot 1.12.947.3:
People are well accustomed to their expected download speed
You're assuming, wrongly, that the connection speed is constant for everyone. It is not.
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@pesala Sorry, but your example still means I have to pause and think about how big the file is, then how many seconds it says, and then work that backwards to estimate if it's coming in fast or not!
I find this the very opposite of old Opera /new Vivaldi philosophy and strange that you argue that this is sufficient