Sort bookmarks by 'My order'



  • Hi,
    just installed version 1.11 and imported my Opera 12.x settings.
    Even though I like the bookmarks view, I can no longer switch back to my order, which is basically sorted by 'date added'.
    I can however use this view in the bookmark panel, but not in the actual Tools - Bookmarks view.

    Is there a way to get my sorting back, or in other words disable the column based sorting?



  • @netwolf You can, just click on the headings. To go back to manual view you just have to click one heading till it shows no arrow any more.

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  • Great, thank you!

    I tried several columns, but obviously each of them only 2 times 😉
    Well, sometimes the easiest thing is the hardest to see...



  • A big thank you from me too. I got my original bookmarks order back, by creation/modification. By clicking a few times on column header: Title, until the arrow disappeared.

    Another benefit this order-restore has:
    Once restored to original creation/modification order, I can drag bookmarks within folder to rearrange order. Dragging a few of my more important bookmarks, just added now as brand new, to top of that folder bookmarks.

    Maybe a new button within bookmarks window, next to search-box:

    [ Restore Original Order (by date) ]

    would be good for those who might not have learnt this subtle trick.

    Or maybe add another column to sort up/down: By Date?
    Just an idea.

    Anyway, thanks again luetage.


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    @washere It is easier in the Bookmarks Panel

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  • Would be logical if the option was in bookmarks window itself:

    • shows genuine empathy for new users who look for it there (as forum search showed me) and might not find the solution
    • is logical to have the ability in Bookmarks window, a basic really
    • instead of this wonderful subtle trick escaping novices as the only way there, nor the side-panel option

    Just thinking of many Vivaldi users, now & in future, who might not read this thread which will drown soon with time, nor many Viv users who might not even read this forum and might give up.

    Can I thank luetage again? THANKS 😃


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    @washere That's why we have a feature request forum.

    Bookmarks Page Sorting

    Vivaldi is still relatively new — just 3½ years since the first Technical Preview release. A lot of features come courtesy of the underlying Chrome engine. Everything else has to be built by the Vivaldi Team from scratch.

    It is a frustratingly slow process, but it is getting better slowly. Initially, we did not even have a Bookmarks Bar or a Bookmarks Menu. Now we have both, but they still need some tweaks.



  • @Pesala 3.5 years, good to know. I know it is Chromium based and open sourced. Hope Jon can keep it going and also keep it growing that way. Not keen on going east everyday to Opera, nor west to Google frankly.

    I see what you are saying. However from UI/UX design/coding POV & commercial experience, vis-à-vis the best of other browsers (Chrome, FireFox, Opera etc), Vivaldi is >95% there IMHO, maybe about 98% of vitals are done. Plus a lot more additional goodies already on top. Then comes even more potential. I think Viv is basically the best ATM. Then will come a large market share or a better phrase: a large user base share percentage, it is inevitable.

    Me and you fundamentally disagree on cramming/stifling user suggestions into a minority few in the name of repetitive requests when in fact most often they are basically different. I think people should feel even more free to suggest and speak their minds WRT suggestions for Viv. Many might be put off commenting, specially when the inhibiting comments have a badge of some color next to it.

    I believe the appealing essential trait of Vivaldi should remain it's spirit of freedom. Freedoms in privacy, UI/UX design, core coding, speech, open mindedness, ambiance etc etc. Hopefully it will keep this spirit and will grow to benefit many who still do not know about it.

    Thanks for the link, I just linked to this thread so more people searching around see the neat trick here too.

    All the Best, Pesala.


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    @washere You wanted to restrict user freedom by adding a feature to use Ctrl+Alt+Number to launch the first 10 bookmarks. I tried to explain that it would be better not to restrict users to those particular shortcuts, but to let them use whichever shortcuts they preferred.

    That is the direction that Vivaldi is taking — more freedom to customise the UI freely, not limiting users to particular changes like removing "Add Active Tab" to bookmarks, or changing the order of the Link Context Menu, but let them edit the menus.

    General requests get lots of votes, specific requests get none or very few votes because one size does not fit all.



  • @pesala said in Sort bookmarks by 'My order':

    @washere You wanted to restrict user freedom by adding a feature to use Ctrl+Alt+Number to launch the first 10 bookmarks. I tried to explain that it would be better not to restrict users to those particular shortcuts, but to let them use whichever shortcuts they preferred.

    That is the direction that Vivaldi is taking — more freedom to customise the UI freely, not limiting users to particular changes like removing "Add Active Tab" to bookmarks, or changing the order of the Link Context Menu, but let them edit the menus.

    General requests get lots of votes, specific requests get none or very few votes because one size does not fit all.

    @Pesala You mean the thread link below? That is misrepresentation again. Why? Because I said anyway that functionality can be implemented I will be happy, again and again. Now you say the above, again, here.

    Misrepresenting someone, or their words, or way, or concepts or path to others is not rightful speech. I would not do it nor expect it from anyone. So I disagree as shown in black and white below, which you referenced in error above. Why you do it, I don't know. I don't mind either, I do not take it personally. But at least in the tradition of civility anywhere on earth and basic freedom, one should be allowed to reply. Never mind higher claimed ideals.

    https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/28223/shortcuts-ctrl-shift-number-to-launch-first-10-urls-in-bookmark-bar/

    Let's at least agree to disagree my friend.

    All the best to you Pesala.


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    @washere said

    Misrepresenting someone, or their words, or way, or concepts or path to others is not rightful speech.

    In the linked thread although you said that you would be happy if it was customisable, your feature request was to fix the shortcuts as Ctrl+Alt+Number, and you were not happy that I had removed the shortcuts from the title, so I restored it to what it was originally.



  • @pesala said in Sort bookmarks by 'My order':

    @washere said

    Misrepresenting someone, or their words, or way, or concepts or path to others is not rightful speech.

    In the linked thread although you said that you would be happy if it was customisable, your feature request was to fix the shortcuts as Ctrl+Alt+Number, and you were not happy that I had removed the shortcuts from the title, so I restored it to what it was originally.

    @Pesala Yes, and I said I would be happy if it was done your way, customizable or any other way you might suggest, as long as the functionality is there. So "your way" of doing it, which I would be happy with too as I said many times, could not possibly be against the spirit of Vivaldi. Happy if your way too.

    Anyway, the main issue IMHO is beyond these, or even various representations or strategies. It is the essential spirit of honest freedom which should remain inherent in Vivaldi in all aspects as I said.

    Thanks for your posts addressing me, as ever.
    Good day to you Pesala.


 

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