An official Vivaldi browser feature requests poll is online now



  • Hi, the Vivaldi development team started an online poll to vote the three features in Vivaldi that you miss the most. Participate to the official [url=https://vivaldi.net/blogs/teamblog/item/10-feature-requests-poll-1]Vivaldi browser feature requests poll[/url]! newscpq P.S: you can read here [url=http://vivaldi.net/surveys/index.php/statistics_user/action/surveyid/561377/language/en]the results of the poll[/url]



  • Thanks for posting this notification here! And thanks to the Vivaldi team for listening so carefully to user inputs - it's evident, because so many of the items in that poll have already appeared in posts here in these forums and dev-blog comments. It's so refreshing to see!



  • I especially love when this or that user point that: "Guys you didn't include this or that feature in the poll!" and the answer is: "It's already in progress" :)
    So much different than ChrOpera Team! Vivaldi Team ROCKS!



  • @Sajadi:

    I really love that guys, finally some devs which see the user and his need as their top priority and not what big money givers and the developers on their own want and need :)

    Let's hope this project translates into big coin for Jon and the team because no business can survive long term if it is not profitable. But having said that surely there is no better recipe for success than meeting user/customer needs so Vivaldi is off to a great start.



  • Results at 23:30 CET.

    | Answer | Count | Percentage |
    | Synchronization (5) | 1213 | 23.85% |
    | Smooth scrolling (4) | 661 | 12.99% |
    | Lazy tabs (do not start loading content in background tabs untill the tab being selected) (11) | 620 | 12.19% |
    | RSS, Newsfeed reader (2) | 618 | 12.15% |
    | Quick settings: e.g quick way to disable JavaScript, proxy settings etc (3) | 482 | 9.48% |
    | Themes support (1) | 400 | 7.86% |
    | Ability to select part of embedded link in a webpage (6) | 397 | 7.80% |
    | Option for how to start Vivaldi (previous/named sessions, home pages, startup dialog) (46) | 389 | 7.65% |
    | Setting for default download folder (14) | 388 | 7.63% |
    | UserJS and UserCSS support (18) | 379 | 7.45% |
    | Sessions management (47) | 364 | 7.16% |
    | Turbo mode (21) | 340 | 6.68% |
    | Site specific preferences (7) | 332 | 6.53% |
    | «Show image details…» via image context menu (9) | 317 | 6.23% |
    | Cache manager (35) | 263 | 5.17% |
    | Open new tabs using mouse middle button click or double-click anywhere in tab bar (34) | 257 | 5.05% |
    | Bittorrent support (48) | 250 | 4.91% |
    | Warning message when closing browser with unfinished downloads (45) | 213 | 4.19% |
    | Drag'n'Drop tabs for creating new window (19) | 208 | 4.09% |

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    ! | Support for non-Latin URLs (42) | 204 | 4.01% |
    | Tabs scrolling with mouse wheel (Right click + scroll) (8) | 195 | 3.83% |
    | Show detailed information about page loading status (12) | 189 | 3.72% |
    | Hi-DPI screens support (30) | 187 | 3.68% |
    | MDI or split screen, to show two tabs side-by-side (43) | 155 | 3.05% |
    | Dockable web-inspector (20) | 151 | 2.97% |
    | P2P functionality (37) | 151 | 2.97% |
    | User's thumbnails for Speed Dials (33) | 141 | 2.77% |
    | Optional for removing space between tabs and top border of window (16) | 140 | 2.75% |
    | History tab on sidebar (36) | 139 | 2.73% |
    | Option for «Reload every…» (15) | 135 | 2.65% |
    | Save image with Ctrl+LMB (41) | 132 | 2.59% |
    | Fonts settings (family and quality) (22) | 131 | 2.58% |
    | Open sites from Speed Dial using Ctrl+number (10) | 130 | 2.56% |
    | Quick download: Download URL text field in the download panel/tab (23) | 129 | 2.54% |
    | The «display:none» rule should prevent the content loading from server (25) | 120 | 2.36% |
    | Loading indicator for background tabs (39) | 113 | 2.22% |
    | Option to customize order of search engines list (27) | 111 | 2.18% |
    | «Open with…» context menu (open link in other browsers) (38) | 108 | 2.12% |
    | Optional for disabling the page previews (especially for vertical tabbar) (17) | 95 | 1.87% |
    | Drag'n'Drop sorting on Speed Dial (f.e., drag'n'drop SD link to the SD folder) (40) | 95 | 1.87% |
    | Click to minimize tab (13) | 86 | 1.69% |
    | Warning message when closing browser with many open tabs (24) | 82 | 1.61% |
    | Spatial navigation (29) | 81 | 1.59% |
    | Double click to close tab (44) | 81 | 1.59% |
    | Allow to hide 'plus' on speed dial (32) | 79 | 1.55% |
    | Built-in Messenger or IRC chat client (26) | 76 | 1.49% |
    | Window panel on sidebar (28) | 70 | 1.38% |
    | Tabs scrolling when there are many open tabs (for all tab bar positions) (31) | 67 | 1.32% |
    !

    To be honest, I'm really, really surprised: instead of finding at the top positions some unique features of Opera, 3 out 6 top requirements are super consumer or extremely common and found on any other browser features, like RSS, Themes support and Synchronization.

    I thought Vivaldi users were giving to some "secondary" very specific Opera feature, much, much more importance: for me it was spatial navigation, sessions management and Opera Turbo, where two out of three of which, are really unique to Opera…

    Strange, very strange results.


  • Moderator

    Wow. The only features in the top 25 (after sync) that are of ANY interest or use to me are rated 8th, 9th, and 16th. The three most important features for me don't even make the cut at all.

    And really - smooth scrolling? What? Marketing gurus may have more going for them than I ever imagined. Even "power" users can be really shallow as to what they consider important.

    That said, RSS and "disable javascript" and such scored a ton better than I could have predicted.



  • These preliminary results are a bit disheartening…

    I too thought Vivaldi users would place Opera's unique features above what competing browsers already offer.

    For me, the top 3 features missing would be:

    -- Spatial navigation (29)
    -- Quick settings: e.g quick way to disable JavaScript, proxy settings etc (3)
    -- Site specific preferences (7)

    ¡ Spatial navigation alone is enough to keep me using Opera 12 as my main browser at home and at work !

    Opera's M2 mail client is still my main e-mail client at home, but this feature is not in the poll...

    Anyways, I just installed Vivaldi and will be along for the ride from now on!


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    @edsonh:

    These preliminary results are a bit disheartening…

    I too thought Vivaldi users would place Opera's unique features above what competing browsers already offer.

    For me, the top 3 features missing would be:

    -- Spatial navigation (29)
    -- Quick settings: e.g quick way to disable JavaScript, proxy settings etc (3)
    -- Site specific preferences (7)

    ¡ Spatial navigation alone is enough to keep me using Opera 12 as my main browser at home and at work !

    Opera's M2 mail client is still my main e-mail client at home, but this feature is not in the poll...

    Anyways, I just installed Vivaldi and will be along for the ride from now on!

    Yeah. M2 is not in the poll because integrated email is already in process. This may also be the case with a number of other features this or that user find important.



  • I could quote every single word you said, Ayespy and edsonh

    RSS? never used
    smoothscrolling? i find it's only slowling down responsiveness
    Themes? I don't reaaaally give a…: my aim is looking at the content of the page, not at the frame, where it fits into :-D!

    Disable JAvascript? Very, very important, to me, but only if it is re-implemented in some more modern version: something that allowed to toggle multimedia plug-in contents ON or OFF, to save bandwidth, or reduce noise, for instance.

    And yes, spatial navigation would be my single reason to continue using opera/vivaldi.



  • I thought that Spatial navigation was using WASD keys to move around the page :D Something similar to M2 is already in progress as somebody showed screenshot from Mac version of Vivaldi.
    Poll results are only pointing priorities and I think some things are pretty easy to implement compared to other (like synchronization) so probably they will work on them simultaneously. I treat this poll as an indicator that they care about the user base and I think that's what matters the most right know.



  • spatial navigation best use was with the SHIFT+ARROW KEYS. I never used a mouse, thanks to spatial navigation.
    @starkcitizen:

    I treat this poll as an indicator that they care about the user base and I think that's what matters the most right know.

    We are all just pure enthusiasts, here: they are already caring about us, by developing a "new browser" with a very very strong link to Opera.
    I think that… depending on the aim of the poll, they might choose to adapt to nowadays users base and implement the features they requested, or to disappoint (and probably loose) them, doing the opposite.



  • Maybe they've changed it to WASD so people would still be able to select links using keyboard without moving hand from the mouse, because normally you use left hand for these keys and you don't have to press SHIFT all the time. But if they give option to change it to SHIFT+ ARROWS I don't mind. Everyone has some working habits, so it's all about giving options as forcing stuff never do any good.



  • This is a lesson to Opera on how polls should be done. Opera's last poll was quite pathetic. . It was basically to ask us which implementation do we prefer



  • @Ayespy:

    And really - smooth scrolling? What? Marketing gurus may have more going for them than I ever imagined. Even "power" users can be really shallow as to what they consider important.

    As someone who voted for smooth scrolling - yes, apparently I'm this shallow, but smooth scrolling (done right) is quite essential to my day-to-day web browsing experience. Just like font rendering as good as possible and other things other people might consider irrelevant or shallow. Visuals are kinda important for me, sorry (though I didn't vote for theme support, if you're wondering - the default theme kinda grew on me, even if it needs some tweaking). I really, REALLY dislike non-smooth scrolling - I'd go as far as not even calling jerky jumping x lines at a time scrolling. I'm sorry you find it shallow. But I just do. I'd considered it a thing of the past for quite a few years now.

    Now the question is whether or not did it deserve the priority I gave it by voting on it. And the answer is - well, it depends. Three votes is not much. There's many items on the list I'd consider essential. But, since this is not the old Opera, but a browser more or less compatible with Chromium, there's tons of extensions. Some of those essential features can already be substituted by extensions. For example, site preferences are very essential to me, because I pretty much need custom CSS. So, under normal circumstances, I'd vote for that for sure. But I don't really need other parts of site preferences - and I can already have Stylish for site specific user CSS, which is working perfectly in Vivaldi right now. Meaning - site preferences didn't get my vote this time, even though I'd certainly appreciate it if/when it comes as native Vivaldi feature.

    Now, with smooth scrolling, there are some extensions as well, yes. But none of them work properly with Vivaldi right now - there are issues. And, as I said, I kinda need smooth scrolling to "feel good". So - voted. Would I regret the vote I gave it if the smooth scrolling extensions start working before native smooth scrolling arrives? Well, yeah, kinda. Then again, I can't see the future, really, so I have to make my decisions based on what I know right now at this very moment.

    I don't know whether I'm a power user (or "power" user), though - I don't really consider myself one, but apparently, when talking with people who use other browsers, things I as a long-time Opera user consider essential and normal seem weird and sometimes even crazy to them (like working with 40+ tabs and/or having a sidebar with notes available). So I'll let others decide whether or not I'm a power user.

    Also can't speak for any marketing gurus. But I'd wager I'm not that kind of person to be won over by marketing thingamajigs that easily ;)



  • @RRR13:

    But if I ever have to touch more than the two extensions I currently use in Opera I will undoubtedly ditch Vivaldi.

    I also don't want to be adding a bunch of extensions to make Vivaldi run. I had very few to none in O12 because it was feature rich. I expect the same from Vivaldi.


  • Moderator

    I suppose I would like scrolling to occur without jumps or stops, but I've yet to experience a "smooth scroll" implementation that didn't make me faintly seasick. For some reason, they seem to act without precision, sometimes continuing to scroll after I have decided to stop. If there were a "perfect" smooth scroll, I imagine I would like it. In the meantime, as long as wheel control permits sufficiently fine precision, I'm good. Variety is the spice of life, and I begrudge no one their likes and dislikes, no matter how much they might surprise me. Nobody has to defend their preferences to me.

    If you USE custom CSS you are, indeed, a power user. I, on the other hand, am pretty certainly NOT a power user. My needs are very simple and unsophisticated (yet no browser meets them).

    For my part, if some elementary things are finished in the browser - universal site compatibility, UI configurability, mail, smoother tab and bookmark handling - There is only ONE extension I am ever likely to need, and that's the one that copies text without formatting. If "copy without formatting" option were built into the browser, I'd turn it on in a heartbeat. So potentially, I would use Vivaldi without extensions. Not one. I required zero extensions in Opera 21.17.

    I don't "do" RSS, CSS, spatial navigation, MDI (not even cascading tabs), mouse gestures (I tried them years ago and just couldn't get in the habit), window panels, quick commands, P2P, saved sessions, jillions of tabs, User JS, turn images on and off, download or upload tons of crap, etc. I'm a garden variety user - who just wants a browser that can be laid out to speed my workflow.


  • Moderator

    Oh - and it's not about what marketing gurus can talk you into. It's about whether they understand the public mind. Seems some of them know more about what the average consumer might like than I do.



  • Just an observation. If Vivaldi has as long a run as most of us hope, it'll continue accumulating features and configurability. Some of us will see no need for some of those… others will see them as water given to a thirsty man in a desert. What made Opera in the old days so unique was that it could be made into a browser that almost any serious user could configure and use for whatever he needed... in ways totally different from the next user. That browser and its capabilities actually molded many of my browsing habits even as I tweaked it uniquely for me. And this is why it was so wrenching to see it all yanked away in a moment - I believe for all of us. My plea right now is that we as users don't snipe and shoot down each other's suggestions for improvements, especially at this stage of the game... it's not a zero-sum competition between "needs". I firmly believe that eventually our real browser needs will all be met by this design team, providing that we don't start beating up on each other for our unique ideas and needs and thereby dilute our effectiveness in these forums. These are early days, and Vivaldi needs to hear our straight-up thoughts about a given need. They've got a lot of experience, and they'll sort out the chaff from the wheat... :)


  • Moderator

    @Blackbird:

    Just an observation. If Vivaldi has as long a run as most of us hope, it'll continue accumulating features and configurability. Some of will see no need for some of those… others will see them as water given to a thirsty man in a desert. What made Opera in the old days so unique was that it could be made into a browser that almost any serious user could configure and use for whatever he needed... in ways totally different from the next user. That browser and its capabilities actually molded many of my browsing habits even as I tweaked it uniquely for me. And this is why it was so wrenching to see it all yanked away in a moment - I believe for all of us. My plea right now is that we as users don't snipe and shoot down each other's suggestions for improvements, especially at this stage of the game... it's not a zero-sum competition between "needs". I firmly believe that eventually our real browser needs will all be met by this design team, providing that we don't start beating up on each other for our unique ideas and needs and thereby dilute our effectiveness in these forums. These are early days, and Vivaldi needs to hear our straight-up thoughts about a given need. They've got a lot of experience, and they'll sort out the chaff from the wheat... :)

    Valid sentiment, well-expressed.



  • I picked 22, 43 and 46 - they actually used my wording on 43. (They submitted the list to us and asked if there was anything they missed. I mentioned about 5 or 6 I'd seen here that weren't present.)


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