Alternate Method to get to the Bookmark Manager



  • Right now the only way I can see to get to the Bookmark Manager is by opening a Speed Dial page and choosing Bookmarks. I really would like to see another way to get to the manager and suggest a button beside the existing buttons to the right of the search bar at the top of the Bookmarks panel. It could be called something like 'Manager' (or an icon) and look like this: [ New Bookmark | New Folder | Delete | Edit | [b]Bookmark Manager[/b] ]



  • To find bookmark manager:
    Click on the icon on the left of the status bar to select panel. Bookmark icon is the top one. Click on bookmark to edit and pen icon becomes active.
    I hope this helps.



  • Thank you both.

    What I mean by Bookmark Manager is shown in the pink area in the image. The green is the bookmark panel. I can only see the pink bookmark area by clicking bookmark in the speed dial page. I'd like to be able to get to the list from the bookmark panel.
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    Near as I can tell the ONLY way to the bookmark manager proper, is via the speed dial. Functions in the panel are nearly identical to functions in the manager, but not quite. So the manager does need one-click access from the UI itself, not always from Speed Dial.



  • @Ayespy:

    So the manager does need one-click access from the UI itself, not always from Speed Dial.

    Either like I first suggested A new entry at the end of the existing ones in the bookmark panel [ New Bookmark | New Folder | Delete | Edit | [b]Bookmark Manager ]. Or maybe maybe it's own icon in the side bar. But I'd prefer it in the bookmarks panel because a new icon on the side would be redundant.



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    But for folks like ME, who do not use the sidebar panels of ANY browser, a button located somewhere in the main UI would be ideal.

    Mayhaps put it in that vast wilderness which is located just to the right of the horizontal Main Menu. ;) B)

    Or it could live on the Address Bar, immediately to the left of the URL box, to satisfy those who do not use the Menu Bar (I use both of those bars).

    As I see it, the primary objective is a SINGLE CLICK method to reach the full Bookmark Manager from the main UI.

    BTW, I do not think that we were ever notified that a full Bookmark Manager even EXISTED in the Vivaldi browser.

    I had to stumble upon it one day by poking around and trying each thing which I saw in the menues & settings. :unsure:

    Another thought would be to add a traditional Bookmarks Menu dropdown to the horizontal Main Menu bar, and include access THERE.

    But still have a direct access button in the main UI too.

    Thanks. :)



  • @davesnothere:

    Or it could live on the Address Bar, immediately to the left of the URL box, to satisfy those who do not use the Menu Bar (I use both bars). As I see it, the primary objective is a SINGLE CLICK method to reach the full Bookmark Manager.

    I could vote for this while still wanting it in the bookmark panel. Two places would not hurt.

    Think of it. If we do have the bookmark panel open we see the edit buttons therein. A button leading to the full bookmark manager seems obviously needed beside them.



  • @g_bartsch:

    I could vote for this while still wanting it in the bookmark panel. Two places would not hurt.

    Think of it. If we do have the bookmark panel open we see the edit buttons therein. A button leading to the full bookmark manager seems obviously needed beside them.

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    [My Reply]

    And those two would be the most logical places for this particular button.

    It would then not need to be in the Speed Dial area any more, though having a Bookmarks Menu would still appeal to traditionalist users.

    BTW, the same overall logic could be applied to how we would access our History.



  • @davesnothere:

    It would then not need to be in the Speed Dial area any more, …

    Yes, IMHO it doesn't belong in the speed dial area.



  • @davesnothere:

    BTW, the same overall logic could be applied to how we would access our History.

    Since you don't use the side panel you may not agree but I believe the history links should load in a side panel precisely like O12 does. This we see the links and content at the same time and can click links in succession and have them load thus viewing them install without having to make extra clicks to open the history page again and again. Another case where O12 is perfect or very close to perfect. I'd like to see V do it the exact same way.



  • @g_bartsch:

    @davesnothere:

    BTW, the same overall logic could be applied to how we would access our History.

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    Since you don't use the side panel, you may not agree, but I believe the history links should load in a side panel precisely like O12 does.

    Thus we see the links and content at the same time and can click links in succession and have them load thus viewing them install without having to make extra clicks to open the history page again and again.

    Another case where O12 is perfect or very close to perfect. I'd like to see V do it the exact same way.

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    [My Reply]
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    You may well be right about all of that.

    As I do not use History a lot (compared to Bookmarks), it would not matter as much to me how I reached it, nor how it behaved when I got there, but what you describe makes good sense.

    MY newest Opera experience was 11.64, as it was the highest which I could make work on Win2K of my trusty old ThinkPad T22, even though folks say that 12 was SUPPOSED to work there too.

    I DID like v.11.64, but was mostly into IE8 on my newer PCs, and used IE6 as much as I could on the old beast, plus Opera.

    Later, when returning to FireFox on the newer PCs (after previously dropping FF for IE because FF4 was too different than FF3.6.x,), I learned that v.10 worked on Win2K, so I mostly use THAT whenever on that PC these days.

    THIS time around with FF, I have embraced extensions in a big way.

    Anyway, if History worked as intuitively as you just said, I might USE it more. ;)



  • From my perspective as an Olde Opera user, it would be better if Ctrl+Shift+B opened the Bookmarks Manager (not toggle the Bookmarks Bar as it does now) and Ctrl+Shift+H opened the History page.

    (And I personally prefer both in a separate window rather than the active tab or a new tab, but I could live with a new tab. There probably should be an option for either. Could probably all be added to the Keyboard shortcuts section of the Vivaldi settings.)



  • As an alternative to single-click button (e.g., on the Tool Bar) requested by many, an option that may be helpful to some for now is to create a bookmark for the Bookmarks Manager. This takes 2 clicks (Bookmarks Panel and the bookmark to Bookmarks Manager).

    I haven't figured out a way to bookmark the page view seen when clicking the Bookmarks button on the Speed Dial, but I tried using vivaldi://bookmarks (from vivaldi://vivaldi-urls) as the URL for bookmarks. In my current 32-bit Win7 32-bit Vivaldi v1.0.138.4 it sometimes initially gets a Page Not Available error, but then after a few seconds it forwards to:

    chrome-extension://eemcgdkfndhakfknompkggombfjjjeno/main.html#1

    This is the default chrome bookmark manager, also used by Google Chrome (and #1 is the top folder). It can also, of course, can be bookmarked (with or without the #1 or any other folder # of your choice) instead or, or in addition to vivaldi://bookmarks.

    It has a different, more traditional UI than the Vivaldi Bookmarks Manager UI accessed from the Bookmarks button on the Speed Dial, but the same content. Of course appearance is a personal preference, but I kind of prefer the traditional UI right now, partly because it is more compact, and my impression so far is that it may also be more responsive than the Vivaldi UI.

    Given the erratic initial response of vivaldi://bookmarks (and several other vivaldi://vivaldi-urls) at this point in Vivaldi's development, it would probably be more reliable to just bookmark the chrome-extension. (For the time being, at least, both URLs end up at the same, more traditional, chrome-extension UI)



  • I discovered vivaldi://bookmarks this last weekend & was delighted with how well & reliably it works for me. This is what i have done, as my workaround til we get a proper GUI method. I saved that page as a bookmark, then added said bookmark to my Bookmarks Bar. Now every/ anytime i want to jump directly to it i simply left click that BB icon if i'm happy to recycle the current tab, else middle-click it to open in a new tab. As gdveggie quite properly just said, the tab opens with address altered to chrome-extension://eemcgdkfndhakfknompkggombfjjjeno/main.html#1 , but other than that it works brilliantly for me [BTW, the latest SS also now lets me use the same BB icon technique to fast-jump to the Speed Dial page, whereas in the previous SSs doing that gave a broken tab that then worked after pressing Enter]. Yay Vivaldi; tis all coming along very nicely.



  • @Steffie:

    …then added said bookmark to my Bookmarks Bar

    Hey, that's a great idea for those who use Bookmarks Bars (I don't). Gets it down to the one-click many were wanting! :)



  • Thank you gdveggie and Steffie. Linking to vivaldi://bookmarks is working great. Eventually I hope the devs will add icons as discussed above to load the bookmark manager in the content area as this link does. This will suffice for now.



  • @g_bartsch:

    Thank you gdveggie and Steffie.

    Linking to vivaldi://bookmarks is working great.

    Eventually I hope the devs will add icons as discussed above to load the bookmark manager in the content area as this link does.

    This will suffice for now.

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    [My Reply :]

    Thanks to all 3 of you !

    This will help for the moment.

    It will be interesting to see what OTHER internal Vivaldi URLs prove to be useful from that linked list.

    In Mozilla browsers, I learned of one which can be bookmarked to bring the Add-Ons Manager page - about:addons - and of course their famous about:config page for tweaking.

    BTW, is there a page for Vivaldi or Chromium which works similarly to how about:config does for Mozilla browsers ?



  • @davesnothere:

    In Mozilla browsers, I learned of one which can be bookmarked to bring the Add-Ons Manager page - about:addons - and of course their famous about:config page for tweaking.

    BTW, is there a page for Vivaldi or Chromium which works similarly to how about:config does for Mozilla browsers ?

    For Vivaldi extensions, you might check out vivaldi://chrome/extensions. I haven't used Firefox in ages and never tweaked it much beyond adding a few helpful add-ons (and I haven't yet added any extensions to Vivaldi), so I'm not sure how how similar it might be.

    BTW, you can also use vivaldi://settingspage/all/ to open all Vivaldi settings in a tab instead of a popup window (but for some buggy reason it displays without a scrollbar at this time). Also, if you're really interested in tweaking and not already familiar with vivaldi://flags, you might want to check it out as well.



  • As many people know by now, this nice workaround broke in SN 1.0.151.7.

    Sadly, it's still broken in SN 1.0.156.2, at least in Linux x64 :S

    I'm far too slack & lazy to boot back to Win7 to test it there, so shall leave that to others. ;)



  • @Steffie:

    …still broken in SN 1.0.156.2, at least in Linux x64 :S
    I'm far too slack & lazy to boot back to Win7 to test it there, so shall leave that to others. ;)

    Still not working in 32-bit Vivaldi v1.0.156.2 on 32-bit Win7, either. :(


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