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  • @Ayespy
    What can you configure on menus and scrollbars?



  • I do not understand the following:

    Remove Winsparkle from Vivaldi and always use the UpdateNotifier for updating (VB-26833)

    But when I updated today it looks like you still use Winsparkle. So does this mean that you do not use Winsparkle for the update notifications anymore but in general still use it?



  • @Gwen-Dragon
    OK, no temp folder, but how would you be able to have the autoupdater run unless you had vivaldi processes also running? Doesn't make sense :)

    However, just got autonotified of an update, and it's worked as normal - tho' not a delta, but a full dl.

    Whatever the problem was, its "gone away" without my making further changes.

    thanks for your attention anyway



  • @wojcieche: thank you


  • Moderator

    @irritable Sometimes delta updates are switched off by the Vivaldi server admin, sometimes if download is broken the updater fetches the full update.



  • Was all excited when I heard about Vivaldi almost 3 years ago. Same people that once made my favorite browser: Opera. The promise that once again there would be an integrated mail client was what most interested me. We are now 3 years on. I have lost all interest in this project. Vivaldi is a memory hog of a browser. On my Linux Mint Mate 18 Vivaldi with only one miserly tab open uses as much memory as Firefox with 18 tabs and 3 windows open, I kid you not. It takes up 198 MB of disk space. That is twice as much as Firefox and considerably larger than the Chrome it is based on. Video playback is not always assured. It can hang at times. Other times the video, or at least the sound keeps going after a tab is closed or, even now, when the browser is closed. Amateur hour I call that!

    There were some lame excuses early on that the email client would come but it would take time. But after 3 years it is clear to me I have been holding on for too long.

    I know nobody cares much about my tirade and most will will say good riddance! Vivaldi is already removed from my computer and I would love to close my Vivaldi profile but that seems not to be an option. I just don't see the point in waiting any longer for the one feature that would have made me change to Vivaldi, as it is just one browser out of many and definitely not the best, not the sleekest, nor the fastest nor most useful.
    Truly disappointed!!



  • @geertlp168 Yeah, the Devs all got together & decided to do all that just to specifically piss YOU off. Success! The plan is, one day after you've slammed the door shut, all the goodies arrive. Bye!

    PS - All the rest of us clearly are merely loony masochists by using V, given the massive disaster you've portrayed. Unless, of course, you're wrong...


  • Moderator

    @geertlp168 The last time you posted anywhere here was back during the Vivaldi 1.2 release cycle. No specific problem reports, no requests for any assistance. Based on your words, you'd think that Vivaldi would be totally unusable but that's clearly not the case.

    If you're experiencing a problem with Vivaldi on Linux Mint, please kindly post in the Linux forum. Others will either confirm your issue (and assist you in filing a bug report) or help you to resolve it.

    Vivaldi is not like other corporations that release features, ready or not, based on a schedule.

    Lastly, if you still feel that strongly and would like to close your account, you'll find the directions on how to do that here:
    https://help.vivaldi.com/article/delete-account-on-vivaldi-net/

    Thanks.


  • Vivaldi Translator

    I've just visited http://html5test.com site which claimed me I am using "Vivaldi 1.91". :slight_smile:
    So I looked to Vivaldi About page and in the User Agent there is really:

    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/59.0.3071.90 Safari/537.36 Vivaldi/1.91.867.3

    Interesting... Is it a bug or intention?




  • Vivaldi Translator

    @iAN-CooG Thanks, but I'm confused from @Gwen-Dragon's answer:

    Some websites do not detect Vivaldi correctly and they do not know about newer 1.10, they check only for 1.9 numbers, thats wh the UA has such big version number.

    The problem is not in detection. The problem is already present in the User Agent string by which is Vivaldi identifying to web sites. In other words: Vivaldi itself is claiming itself it's a Vivaldi 1.91. Vivaldi has bad "identification card" so also sites are not able to read it correctly.



  • @nfsmaniac you got it wrong, I don't know which sites exactly, but they confused 1.10 with 1.1, while with 1.9x they think it's 1.9... the solution should be fire those idiots hired as webmasters and let someone knowing what they're doing fix the websites.


  • Vivaldi Translator

    @iAN-CooG So you want to tell me that in the Vivaldi Team there are idiots to be fired too? :slight_smile:
    Oh, it's so bad... :confused:

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    This is the "identification card". This complete UA string is processed by webmaster's code. Webmasters may be bad programmers so they make bad program to process this full UA string. But when already the input is bad, bad is also the output (=result of the UA processing program).



  • @nfsmaniac you continue to not understand what happened. In the first 1.10 snapshots UA was 1.10.something, as it should. Some websites, no specific name was made to me, so I don't know which, by reading 1.10 in the UA, they misinterpreted it as 1.1, and probably gave error saying the 1.1 is outdated. Vivaldi team must have temporarly worked around it by replacing the UA in the subsequent snapshots as 1.91, tricking those sites in believing it's Vivaldi 1.9 (not 1.91, they don't even read the 2nd cipher in the minor release).
    For sure this issue with those sites should be resolved before the actual 1.10 release, it would be a pity that due to some minus habens not able to read properly a UA, Vivaldi should stick to a madeup UA forever...


  • Moderator

    @nfsmaniac said in Custom Speed Dial thumbnails – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 1.10.862.6:

    The problem is not in detection. The problem is already present in the User Agent string by which is Vivaldi identifying to web sites. In other words: Vivaldi itself is claiming itself it's a Vivaldi 1.91. Vivaldi has bad "identification card" so also sites are not able to read it correctly.

    The User Agent was Vivaldi/1.10 before and some websites detect that Vivaldi was outdated because the sites thought it was Vivaldi 1.1.
    And now the devs fakes it in Snapshot as 1.91 so these bad sites think it is Vivaldi 1.9.


  • Vivaldi Translator

    @Gwen-Dragon @iAN-CooG Ah sorry, I understand now.

    If websites can't correctly detect the version... OK, it's known thing.
    What surprise me more is that the "bad sites" can EVER detect Vivaldi.
    Also if we talk about websites -- isn't better to compare only the Chromium core version to derive (and bother you) that you have an outdated browser as all Chromium based browser has same capabilities?
    But yes, we are back at webmasters...


  • Moderator

    @nfsmaniac Okay, I'm somewhat confused and baffled... Vivaldi has put "Vivaldi 1.91" in the User Agent, and that there haven't been any reports of web sites breaking. Why is this upsetting to so many people, let alone anyone at all??

    Apparently Microsoft skipped "Windows 9" because there's still a ton of software out there (written by "clever" coders) that would have confused it with Windows 95 and Windows 98.

    This kind of stuff is all very normal and typical in the IT world.



  • @xyzzy said in Custom Speed Dial thumbnails – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 1.10.862.6:

    This kind of stuff is all very normal and typical in the IT world.

    If you mean that it's normal that there are too many incompetent people behind a computer, yes, that is sadly true.


  • Moderator

    @iAN-CooG I try not to be too harsh in my judgements. Much of my experience has come from turning around troubled large projects. Sure, there are a lot of inexperienced people in IT without good mentors. Quality can also become an issue even with totally competent people given the "right" set of imperfect circumstances.

    Many organizations (reflexively) say that "Quality is our #1 priority" but often, in reality, it's fourth or fifth on their list at best.



  • Dear Ms. Popova,

    We know that many of you like to tinker with just about anything in the Vivaldi browser

    Thank you for recognizing this :)


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