[FR] Integrated Calendar



  • I am using the original Opera for ages, both paid and free, and there was always one single thing I missed: An integrated calendar. It doesn't need to be crazily deep, but something like Lightning/Sunbird for Thunderbird would make Vivaldi the perfect communications centre for me. - Being able to create tasks/events from mails with both being linked so the relation is maintained. - Being able to set reminders for mails needing answers. - Being able to link mails to tasks/events. - A current tasks/upcoming events tab in the sidebar. - A calendar view with the usual suspects like day/week/month/year views, single and repeating events, assigning events to tasks (like for instance related meetings to a certain project) etc. I am aware that this is probably not something for the short term, since many other things need to be there first, but IMO this would make Vivaldi even more complete for the target audience. Thanks for keeping the Opera-spirit alive!!!!! :-) Cheers, Tom



  • Programs like Outlook obviously do include calendars. When I check my work schedule online, there is a link there to email the schedule to me, obviously expecting the host or program to know how to deal with calendar events automatically. So it only makes sense …



  • Thanks for the feedback on my idea :-)

    For me the integrated mail client is the main reason why I still use Opera 12, so that is the context I think in.
    I can't explain why, but separate mail and browser always felt "clumsy" to me. I don't use webmail so that may be one reason.

    So yeah, connecting things on the web with mails and time planing would be perfect for me as a freelancer.
    So far, Opera 12 is my main "window to the wwworld" so to say, my news-aggregator and communications central.

    If the calendar would be an extensions, it would need to be really well done and integrated. The offers for Opera never did that for me, Lightning in Thunderbird would be more to my liking (but Thunderbird still feels clumsy compared to Operas integrated mail client to me).

    I look forward to the further developments. :-)

    Cheers,

    Tom


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    I have been agitating for this since the days of Opera 9. At that time I wanted it syncable through Exchange, but now it seems it would be more useful it it synced via Google (and maybe Exchange). The other thing that goes with this is syncing contacts to Google. Then Vivaldi becomes a complete productivity suite. and replaces a number of things on my taskbar and desktop.



  • @Ayespy:

    I have been agitating for this since the days of Opera 9. At that time I wanted it syncable through Exchange, but now it seems it would be more useful it it synced via Google (and maybe Exchange). The other thing that goes with this is syncing contacts to Google. Then Vivaldi becomes a complete productivity suite. and replaces a number of things on my taskbar and desktop.

    Hehehe - cool, so I'm not alone with this :-)

    As long as it can work purely local as well I'm in. So far I avoid the cloud as much as possible. Heck, I guess I'm the last person still using good old POP3 mail… ;-)

    Cheers,

    Tom


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    Heh. I use POP3 to back up my mail at the end of each day's IMAP sessions.


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    I wanted to add that there was actually little program one could install years ago (basically just a short standalone script) to keep Opera synced with Google Contacts. I installed it and have kept my old version of Opera synced that way ever since - but it's kind of hit-or-miss. For some reason it doesn't always run and, when it does, it only syncs the contacts in a folder named after the gmail account - not those in any other folders. But hey - it does kinda work most of the time, so I know such a thing is possible.

    The name of the program was GOCS. I probably have one of the last copies of it in existence.



  • @Ayespy:

    Heh. I use POP3 to back up my mail at the end of each day's IMAP sessions.

    Hehehe.

    Funny story:
    I used IMAP only once in Opera, about ~5-6 years ago, can't remember the version.
    I worked for an agency (doing 3D graphics). They wanted me to use a company mail address when communicating with their clients. So I set it up in Opera. Worked pretty well.
    A bit too well actually - I had ALL the mail of the company from everybody working there in my inbox…
    I didn't realize that right away but was a bit surprised about some of the mails I've been "forwarded" (which was what I thought happened).
    Only after a while it dawned on me that something must have gone wrong on their mailserver that got me access to everybodys mail...
    I removed everything from my machine and insisted on a pop3 account...
    But since then I'm even more wary of Clouds, IMAP, all that newfangled stuff... ;-)
    Every time I read another story about data security problems these days I'm even more happy with my old-style-solutions ;-)

    I guess I'm getting old ...

    Cheers,

    Tom


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    Well, good points and I would like to add some informations.

    Would be nice to see something like that (this can sync with google AND exchange calendars - that's important for people who already use some of these):
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.anydo.cal&hl=en

    but for Vivaldi browser :) I would use it FOR SURE if this would come with a future Vivaldi mobile browser as well with a sync.

    Our schedule for current day/week (whatever you set - so yes, let us chose) could be visible for example in our speed dial and in the calendar itself (of course).

    Don't forget about time "Native HTML5 Dialog" alerts (also as you set - for example alert me 30 or 5 minutes before event etc.)

    And also sync between desktop and mobile could help to take some market share from calendars that are only for mobiles (for example very nice "ColorNote" calendar).



  • Good points ahoj1234.
    Even though I personally don't use much online calendars I think it would be quite important to have them accessible if Vivaldi would get a feature like this. And when Vivaldi will go mobile, it should of course sync to that for those who need that.

    Cool stuff, keep it coming ;-)

    Cheers,

    Tom


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    Nice to see this getting some traction.

    It turns out, the huge pile of code that is Outlook would be entirely unnecessary if Vivaldi would put a bit of effort into becoming a productivity suite. If you're going to integrate email (yes, yes, yes) then just invest a little more time into adopting or writing a calendar backend, and a few lines of code to sync contacts and calendar with existing services, and Vivaldi doesn't even HAVE TO sync these items itself on its own servers - it only has to work with what's already out there and has been adopted by dozens of other dedicated apps and vendors already, and between my Vivaldi and my smartphone (even if I don't run Vivaldi Mobile on it), I am golden.

    I cannot stress strongly enough how good I think this would be for Vivaldi in opportunities for user adoption, and partnerships with other market players.



  • Yeah, makes a lot of sense to me.
    Just today I read that Microsoft has acquired the "Sunrise" app which also acts as aggregator for all kinds of calendars etc.
    http://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2015/02/11/microsoft-acquires-sunrise-creator-innovative-calendar-app-mobile-devices/
    So we are not the only ones who think this makes sense :-)

    Cheers,

    Tom


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