Vivaldi 1.8: still a second class browser



  • Vivaldi says in big letters: "It's your web. Surf it the way you want"
    However, still Vivaldi is a second class browser. Even last version 1.8.770.54 fails to display formatted popup windows correctly. It always opens popup windows in a new tab. Should we wait until version 10+ for such elemental behavior?
    Until when I must continue advising my visitors to use a modern browser to display popups properly?



  • So many questions, try to read the release notes, the answers are there.
    Popups in windows instead of tabs only are back in current 1.9 snapshots and it's getting fixed for next stable releases.



  • I've replied to your comment on the blog. No need to post the same thing twice (here & there). Vivaldi has introduced popup windows recently.

    IMO they didn't work on it earlier because it's a fairly unimportant feature, especially now in the times when modern websites don't use popups at all (in favor of modal windows and such). I'd argue that popups belong to the Internet Explorer 5/6 era when people were still using tables to align the content of their web pages - in other words, it's a bad design (with only a few exceptions when such techniques may become useful and irreplaceable by other, more modern solutions).



  • @pafflick The "fairly unimportant feature" as you call is used by FF, Edge, Chrome, Opera and other modern browsers. And by the way a modal window is not a solution if you need to move an small popup window while reading the window that called the popup. For instance if the popup contains a map referred in another window's text
    I'm not a Vivaldi's user nor a fan, so please don't be so pretentious and despective when disinterestedly some one ask for a feature.
    Cheers.


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    Works in current Snapshot 1.9.804.3.

    Open vivaldi://settings/appearance/
    Deactivate "Open Popups in tabs"



  • @lesm said in Vivaldi 1.8: still a second class browser:

    Vivaldi is a second class browser.

    Popup windows are displayed again in the latest snapshot, but you have to make some allowance for the fact that Vivaldi is only a year old since its first 1.0 final was released, and little more than two years old since it's first technical preview (January 27th 2015).

    Popup windows still lack zoom, etc., but at least they do work now.

    If it is nearly perfect by version 10.0 that would be pretty good, considering that Opera is now on version 44 and Firefox on 52.



  • @lesm said in Vivaldi makes History:

    The "annoying and fairly useless" feature as you call is used by FF, Edge, Chrome, Opera and other modern browsers.

    "Other" like for example Internet Explorer 6? It supports window popups. Does this make it a "modern" browser?

    @lesm said in Vivaldi makes History:

    And by the way a modal window is not a solution if you need to move an small popup window while reading the window that called the popup. For instance if the popup contains a map referred in another window's text

    I didn't say it's gonna be a solution in each case, but for this case you've described, creating a draggable/movable, floating block element (call it a "window" if you want) is definitively much better and more modern approach as opposed to using an old-fashioned popup window. But I know, I know... The first one requires more coding and some knowledge/skills. Being lazy & calling a popup with JS is much easier, so why should anyone care? It's better to mock and blame it on the still-young and developing browser project... 馃檮

    @lesm said in Vivaldi makes History:

    I'm not a Vivaldi's user nor a fan, so please don't be so pretentious and despective when disinterestedly some one ask for a feature.

    If you'll follow your own advice about not being so pretentious or despective the next time you ask for something, then we've got a deal.


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