What I hate about Vivaldi
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So, after I while, I've finally submitted some bugs. The point 2. (which is - when I'm thinking about it - definitely a bug), point 5. and one thing I've not listed here (when page makes redirect while I'm typing into address bar, everything written is lost).
Can I expect some feedback or the only thing I can do now is just wait if it appears anytime in future version?Have a nice day!
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@sukovec
The only "direct feedback" you get when submitting bugs is a number that is send to the mailaddress you assigned to the bugreport form. The number looks like this --> [Jira] (VB-24843).
In case you read the blogposts for the new released versions you can check in the changelog if your bug is among the fixed ones. But it can happen that somebody else already reported something as a bug earlier what you reported too so in the changelog there will be listed only the first bug number.
Another place where you can see those numbers is the update window. Every time vivaldi says "hey there's an update" the popup that prompts the "install update" function has the changelog also included (in case you don't want to read the blog) -
@zaibon Great. Next thing I hate about vivaldi: I don't get any feedback about reported bugs. I now feel sooo motivated to fill another bug reports. Even "this is not a bug, it's a feature" would be better than nothing.
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@sukovec How good are you at arithmetic?
Current bug numbers are approaching 30,000. If a developer replied to every bug report, and if it only took 5 minutes, that would add up to about 2,500 hours or 312.5 solid working days, just to reply to bug reports.
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@sukovec said in What I hate about Vivaldi:
... I don't get any feedback about reported bugs. I now feel sooo motivated to fill another bug reports. Even "this is not a bug, it's a feature" would be better than nothing.
"Better" is a relative term. If spending time to hand-hold each bug complaint (sift for duplicated reports, set up the reported conditions, verify - or not - the bug, and compose a meaningful reply to the reporter) causes developers to have much less aggregate time continuing to actually evolve and fix the design, that seems hardly what I consider "better" in the grand scheme of things. I also believe @Pesala's "5 minutes" is extremely optimistic; anything other than a trivial report acknowledgement will take much longer in most cases.
Bugs are like design changes - they get folded into the various to-do lists of developers working on related areas, with priorities attached depending on their nature. Stopping to provide public insight into each reported bug or advising of specific progress made on quenching each reported bug can only detract from the general amount of constructive work being accomplished by a finite staff, with no payoff other than satisfying the curiosity and vanity of the reporter.
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Hey!
Thanks for your replies. I undestand, what you mean ... but are you trying to convince me, that all the bugs are just lying around without even single update (acknowledged, assigned, rejected, resolved, duplicate etc)? Every bug tracker I've used do these sort of things and sends it by e-mail to some set of users. I don't need two-page elaborate about "why we don't do anything with the 'bug' you've reported". Getting the status would be enough, really
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@sukovec YES I totally agree with you, I detest Vivaldi too. It has removed all my firefox data and lost it somewhere but tells me it has imported it! I logon to Vivaldi and suddenly it looks ditto to Edge, swallowing all my screen with massive tabs at the top third of the screen, huge bookmarks swallow another third of my screen to the left and then another third screen is wallowed on the right.
//MODEDIT: removed a few redundant characters
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@HeatherS Please review the forum Code of Conduct.
- The issue with Tab Thumbnails is just a setting that you can disable.
- The Bookmarks Panel on the left can be resized by dragging.
- If your Firefox data has been lost, then start a new thread. Necroposting is not very helpful, as old threads will often refer to bugs that have long since be resolved.
Most issues can be resolved with a little patience and diagnostics. We regular users like helping others, that is why we visit so often.
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@HeatherS Vivaldi is extremely customisable. If there is something you don't like, odds are you can remove it with just a click or two. This is what my Vivaldi looks like:
No massive tabs or huge bookmarks that swallow any part of the screen. And, if I want to, I can remove the address bar, tab bar and the left sidebar as well.
Just ask nicely for help and someone will point you to how you can fix these things and get Vivaldi to look the way you want it to look.
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@HeatherS Vivaldi did not remove your firefox data, and in fact cannot, under any circumstances, do so. If you lost firefox data, it will have been due to a different cause. Vivaldi lacks the power to do that.
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@sukovec
I use MacOS, not Linux, but some things must be pretty much the same. The Ctrl key analog for MacOS is the Cmd key.
2. Cmd-s saves the web page for me. For an image, I drag it off the page and drop it on the desktop.
3. Middle-click on a blank area of the tab bar opens a new tab for me. So does left-clicking the plus sign.
5. You could set an alias (keyword) for a search engine. Then typing that alias should open the search engine. -
When I look for a product on Amazon, I tend to read the 1-Star User Reviews.
If the majority of those stems from users that are not really dissatisfied with the product itself, but obviously with their own inability to use it or the fact that they, despite rather obvious descriptions, expected something completely different from their purchase, I tend to take that as an indication that there is nothing really wrong with the product itself.
This thread reminds me a bit of those reviews, since most of the complaints here seem to come from users that did not even take 5 minutes to look at the settings before writing their complaints.
Digging up a three year old thread after not even taking the pain of going through the 5 or 6 welcome steps Vivaldi greets you with after a fresh install is an achievement in itself though
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