Pinned tabs not really "pinned", after closing and relaunching Vivaldi disappear.

  • Not a problem with older versions of Vivaldi but with the new release of 1.8 x64bit , I cannot pin a tab to enter a site after closing and relaunching Vivaldi.
    Pinned tabs behave like any other tab, need to check " Last Session " in "Start Up with" setting to get them back.
    But I suppose that's not the point for a "pin tab"
    My settings for pinned tabs are the default.

  • @Alex5 It used to work. You needed to have "load pinned tabs" ticked in startup settings, and then they would appear on restart.

    It's simply bugged currently, hope they fix it soon.

  • @Alex5 I also have this problem! It makes two versions that I'm having this problem! I've seen users talking about it, so I think it really is a bug.

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    @Alex5 Can confirm at last versions of Snapshot and Stable release ๐Ÿ˜• both 64bit version ๐Ÿ™

  • Can confirm this, also happening with me on Windows (Windows is 64bits, Vivaldi is 32bits).

  • Just a question:
    Did anybody filed a bugreport yet? Otherwise there is a chance devs aren't aware of this problem and there won't be a fix for this any time soon.

    I would file one but I am not affected by this - so I can't provide any "minor" details that might be the cause of this.

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    I haven't coz it happened to me just once and I'm not even sure anymore if I didn't unpin that tab myself with a shortcut accidentally...

  • I can add that this is not just a problem with Windows 7 64-bit that I use on my work computers and laptop. This is also happening on Linux Mint 18.1 "Serena" MATE 64-bit. This just adds to Vivaldi's long-running problem of not holding tabs after a crash or power outage that the team has supposedly been trying to address for well over a year.

  • Can i just get clarification pls? My default setting deliberately "always" has been to load the last session at startup, & so this alleged problem of disappearing pinned-tabs has not been occurring to me [in SS or Stable]. Are you saying though, that as long as you keep "load pinned tabs" ticked [i do], that you used to be able to select any of the other startup options & still have the pinned tabs appear [even though such outcome seems antithetical to the names of those other options]?
    Tower & Lappy = Maui Linux 17.03 x64 Plasma 5.9.3.

  • @Steffie If you load last session at startup, all your tabs will be restored, therefore the setting "load pinned tabs" is completely superfluous in that case. It only is useful (and quite useful at that), if you have any other option but "load last session" ticked. The point is that you save tabs by pinning them, and all other tabs you had loaded get discarded on startup, hope that makes sense.

  • @luetage -- Hi yes, thanks, i do understand it for "my" default settings, & also i do agree that for the latest Stable [i've not tested it in SS] that the other startup options are not keeping the pinned tabs upon restart [despite "load pinned tabs" ticked] -- indeed i posted my test result of that in the German forum thread on this same topic a couple of nights ago,

    The issue that interests me now however, is that some people have said, or at least intimated, that earlier V versions did still keep the pinned tabs, with ANY of the startup options, as long as "load pinned tabs" is still ticked. Have i understood that correctly?

    My question might seem silly [especially given i have been using V since Feb 2015], but i never before tried those other startup modes [for me, always loading the last session is an excellent match with my workflow sensibilities].

  • @Steffie You have understood it correctly, and it is what this setting is meant to do. Load pinned tabs on startup when you don't have "startup with last session" selected. It worked before 1.8, but now it doesn't.

    If you do use "startup with last session" this whole issue doesn't concern you, I understand that -- and you can safely untick the option "always load pinned tabs", because it won't do anything for you, even if this issue is fixed at some point.

    It's simply a regression which first occurred in a 1.8 snapshot, and now has been introduced to 1.8 stable too.

  • @luetage said in Pinned tabs not really "pinned", after closing and relaunching Vivaldi disappear.:

    I don't know what's so hard to get about it. If you do use "startup with last session", this whole issue doesn't concern you

    With respect, i fear we have not communicated effectively. My post was not intended to dispute the assertion, nor argue the operation. Merely i desired to ensure that i understood the status correctly [of how it used to be], given i never tried it myself [& now cannot, given it's broken]. My desire to understand, was so that i could contemplate if any of the other settings might be handy for me sometimes, once the problem is solved.

    Sometimes i post to help other people, sometimes i post to learn more myself. This time it was a bit more of the 2nd than the 1st.

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    @luetage I think you're might be wrong, despite it worked like that before. Notice that this setting is strictly connected with the "Lazy Load Restored Tabs" - untick that and you're not able to change the other. Therefore it's meant to load all pinned tabs upon startup, even if you set up the browser to not load any tabs until they're activated (lazy load).

    I think that the fact that pinned tabs were kept after restarting the browser when it was set up to start with anything but the last session might've been actually a bug (or a design flaw). It's a similar case as with the switch tabs by scrolling issue, where one checkbox in settings activates/deactivates two different features at once.

    Here's my use case (to debunk your statement about this feature being "completely superfluous" with "startup with last session" settings ๐Ÿ˜›):
    I have two tabs pinned on both my PC and my Tablet. Those are social media websites that I use daily. Both browsers are set up to start up with the last session & lazy load restored tabs. On my PC I've got enough RAM to allow the "Always Load Pinned Tabs" feature to stay turned on so that whenever I go to any of that pinned tabs, they're always loaded already. On my Tablet though, I've got only 2 GB of RAM, so I unchecked the "Always Load Pinned Tabs" feature to save memory upon startup and to fire up the browser more quickly (though it's still slow on Intel Atom). ๐Ÿ˜œ

    That means I'm using the "Always Load Pinned Tabs" for a totally different purpose than the people who use the other startup settings. And it's not redundant for me. That means we might need two different settings options here - just like with the tabs scrolling thing... ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • @pafflick Can be, but I think most people used it to simply save specific tabs they wanna keep. In any case the behaviour has changed, and this wasn't announced anywhere, and so far we got no reaction from anyone involved in the development progress.

    If it's true what you say, and it sounds logical, that's a narrow use case and we should get the other functionality as separate option, or the function should be returned to its previous state. I haven't heard anyone complain about it before, but now that it's changed people suffer terribly and post left and right ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

  • @Alex5
    I can confirm that this issue also occurs with the Vivaldi 1.8 versions running under Win10-32bit, and Linux (Ubuntu 16.04 - 32bit). Therfor I think It is a general regression.
    Has someone filed a bugreport yet? (I have never done this and don't know where to report this).

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    @GAJ IMO it's not a bug, as I've described in my post above. One thing that I would add to that, is that the option is called "Always Load Pinned Tab", not "Always Restore" or "Always Re-open Pinned Tabs", thus leading me to conclusion that the previous behavior was actually not the proper one (at least according to the feature's description & placement in settings).

    I agree, that the devs should do something about it, as there are quite a few people who used that feature to keep pinned tabs always opened. As far as I remember, that's how it worked in Opera 12 (you could've keep them even after clearing the browsing data with the option "Close all tabs" checked). @luetage has already filed a Feature Request (you might go there and vote for it).

    If you're persistent about filing a bug report about it, you can do so here. Theoretically, we're allowed to send feature request using that form as well, although I don't think that it would be necessary in this case. However, I'll leave it up to you.

  • As pafflick pointed out, it's likely not a bug. The devs just rectified an inconsistency, thereby stripping us of the very useful functionality of restoring pinned tabs, without the "last session" setting being activated. Therefore a bugreport won't do anything.

    We have a similar thread in the german forums, from there I have posted a feature request to the official thread. You can vote for it on this page.

    The thread is heavily spammed and it's unlikely we get this request up front, but seems like this is all we can do for the time being.

  • @pafflick -- I completely agree with your interpretation. It seems a bit of a pity that my earlier remark in this thread, " used to be able to select any of the other startup options & still have the pinned tabs appear [even though such outcome seems antithetical to the names of those other options]?", was apparently dismissed or ignored by some of the other posters, who subsequently seem to have come around to your [& my] thinking...

  • @Steffie lol
    What can I say? We were both confused and you were right where I was wrong. Please accept my sincerest apology. I shall erect a statue of gratitude in your name. For generations people will come there to revel in its shadow and think of this day (:
    May this calm your itch to undo me ๐Ÿ˜ฎ


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