Experiences from a 40+ tab opener user



  • I'll preface this by saying I'm the guy who runs his browser with 40+ tabs open at one time... so things like saving your currently open tabs and reopening them after a crash are nice features... ;) [b]When Vivaldi crashes, I can't re-open it[/b] see: [url=https://vivaldi.net/forum/vivaldi-browser/926-sudden-crash]926 - Sudden Crash[/url] It looks like when the main Vivaldi process crashes, all the tab processes are still active. So when you try to re-launch Vivaldi, nothing happens, it doesn't reopen. The Solution is to kill all of the orphaned Vivaldi processes then you can reopen Vivaldi (this is harder to do when you have 40 tabs/processes going on at once), or I created the PowerShell script to do this for me: [code]Get-Process -Name "Vivaldi" | %{taskkill /PID $.ID /F}[/code] [b]When you have too many tabs open, the "X" button disappears[/b] As you fill up your tab bar, the "X" close button gets more and more hidden until it disappears, and is unclickable... which becomes a usability problem. Yes, I know, the workaround is to either Right click on the tab to close, or use a mouse gesture. [b]Mouse Gesture settings[/b] I LOVE mouse gestures :woohoo: , and it is already amazing that they are working out of the box. It would be lovely if the settings page allowed us to change some basic mouse gesture settings. For ex, to open a link in a new tab (Right Click drag down), I literally have to drag down half the screen before it is recognized. The default drag length is much too long to be recognized. This is also a problem because it means that I can't use the mouse gesture to open new links on anything that is at the bottom half of a page. [b]Downloads - Reveal File[/b] In the Downloads Panel, after downloading a file, can you rename the right click option "Reveal File" to the standard, "Open Containing Folder" or something like that. I thought that the option for the download to open the containing folder was missing until I accidentally clicked "Reveal File". "Reveal File" is also misleading if you have downloaded a .zip, as it implies that I can extract and see inside the zip from inside Vivaldi. [b]Search Google box[/b] You don't need a separate Search Google Box if you can do a google search from the address bar. Firefox ("Awesome bar"), Chrome, and even IE have dropped the separate search box in favor of a single "Awesome bar". [b]Address Bar slowness[/b] To expand on talking about the Address bar search as you type, the user experience is very slow. From a programming perspective, my hunch is that the user input is running on the same thread as the search results, as the typed letters do not show up until the search results finish populating. Separating out your UI Thread from the search result thread potentially would "fix" this. [b]Copying from the Address bar[/b] When you visit a regular HTTP:// page, the address bar drops the HTTP:// from the URL of the site. This is in general alright, but becomes a problem when you copy the URL to paste it into an email (usually with the subject "Hey Check this <insert cat="" video="" here="">out!"). If you don't have the HTTP:// in the start of the URL, then it will remain a bunch of text (e.g. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivaldi%28web_browser%29). If it has the HTTP:// at the start of it, then it usually becomes a clickable link.</insert>



  • @HAL9256:

    When you have too many tabs open, the "X" button disappears
    As you fill up your tab bar, the "X" close button gets more and more hidden until it disappears, and is unclickable… which becomes a usability problem.

    Middle click is the fastest way to open and close tabs on Opera.

    While middle click to open a tab is still mostly an Opera only function, middle click to close tabs works nowadays on almost any browser (vivaldi included).



  • @Sajadi:

    It could be useful if it would be possible to enter a different search engine there as compared with the adress toolbar. From that point of view a separate search field can be of course of use!

    The search from the address bar goes trough the default search engine, while on the search bar you can have an huge list of different search engines, from wikipedia in one or more languages, to anything very specialized (or even porn :lol: ).

    I can't see whats wrong on this approach.



  • You are right, I do love having a whole list of search engines to choose from (for ex. in Opera I had one just for Microsoft KB articles), and it's an important distinguishing feature.

    I looked at it closer and I didn't realize that clicking on the magnifying glass would bring up more search engines (just like in the original Opera)… I thought it was the "Search Button", and not a drop down list box. (i.e. If that is the desired functionality, then they should add an arrow or something to make it more apparent that that's the reason it's there).

    But, at the same time, I guess what I was saying was that the same multiple search engine functionality is also duplicated in the address bar. i.e. typing in "w Vivaldi" returns a wikipedia page on Vivaldi just like the search box, or using "g" for google or "wa" for Wolfram Alpha, and it actually has more functionality then the search box (i.e. it also shows you history and bookmark results vs. not having any suggestions). You could even duplicate the drop down list box functionality by making it a search engine selection "button" and just use the address bar as the search box.

    A debate is: do you highlight your search capabilities inside the address bar as a feature (because everyone else is training you to just use the address bar to search from), or break it out as a separate box "just because"?



  • @HAL9256:

    I looked at it closer and I didn't realize that clicking on the magnifying glass would bring up more search engines (just like in the original Opera)… I thought it was the "Search Button", and not a drop down list box.

    I agree this is an oversimplification of the UI. The search box should have the drop down arrow on the left and the GO or magnifying glass button on the right to launch the actual search. I hope this is just a "chromeism" that will be fixed in the future.

    But, at the same time, I guess what I was saying was that the same multiple search engine functionality is also duplicated in the address bar. i.e. typing in "w Vivaldi" returns a wikipedia page on Vivaldi just like the search box, or using "g" for google or "wa"

    My idea is that the the serach box is better suited when the browser is driven mostly by the keyboard, wile the search box is better when one is in relax moments and wants to use just one hand/the mouse only.



  • Also we need multiline tab panel for good-reading pictagramm and tab name for 40+ tab user



  • @RRR13:

    @The_Solutor:

    I can't see whats wrong on this approach.

    What's wrong is you cannot use the other many search engines directly in the address bar using a keyword, like you can in Opera 12 and Firefox.
    That is a must-have for Vivaldi.

    One can agree, but this problem is unrelated with the "search box, yes/no" thing…


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