Vivaldi 1.4 is released with more control! Schedule, Restore and get more flexibility!
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Can you please add support to give sites custom thumbnails? I want to add sites to the speed dial and give them custom thumbnails, similar to how vivaldi comes installed with some custom thumbnails for twitter, facebook, etc
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Now I am thinking that I might die before the email client finally arrives. Meanwhile, Opera's email client still works (but not for all of my accounts), so I can wait. There's always Gmail and Vivaldi.net if Opera M2 finally stops working altogether.
Well, I hope you don't die before mail. But I am not holding my breath. It's such a one shot deal. Once released it would be a massive disaster is their were serious problems with it. They need to get it right the first release. For me personally a mail client isn’t an issue because I have one I love and cannot see myself ever using another. I know others are eagerly waiting for Vivaldi Mail and for them I hope the client comes before many die off :-). But Thank You Vivaldi team for 1.4 and congratulations of the success of your venture thus far.
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can you add a way for webpanels to get notifcations, I need twitter to tell me when I get new tweets in the webpanel, right now I just have twitter as a regular tab and wait for the title to change to twitter (number of new tweets) (ex. twitter (2))
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Sorry, I just re-read the first two sentences and the second sounds bad right after the first! Doh! I had change gears and am not holding my breathe for the client. I meant no predictions on your longevity which I hope will be very extended.
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Rocker gesture for back in web panel brings up menu same as with right click.
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Now I am thinking that I might die before the email client finally arrives.
Life is impermanent and the email client is not that important.
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Hello,
Is there a possibility for the old way of color adoption (using the "accent color from current page") to return as a secondary option in a future version of Vivaldi? I kind of don't like how it acts right now, for example all subreddits now have reddit's meta-theme-color whereas each single subreddit had it's own, this makes pages look really bad and not in harmony anymore (imagine a green subreddit with a metallic grayish blue navigation bar). Vivaldi's subreddit used to make my navigation bar turn the same color as Vivaldi's logo but now it's the same color as Reddit's main page. Another example is MSI's website, the color is now silver where it used to be black, and it just looks weird. Same with Amazon, I don't remember what color it was but it's now golden. From the change log I understand that you changed the algorithms, but in my opinion, the way things worked prior to this version were much better as far as looks go.
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I think that, as a new group, they are getting their feet wet and so it's pretty natural for them to make mistake at something like that. They ARE going to release the mail client, and are actively developing it every single day. It's just not coming as soon as you would like it.
On the plus side, Vivaldi has made FAST development in a year. Equivalent to development of 10 years on any other browser, from what I hear.
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I don't understand:
- Tab animations.
I have animation when move the tab…
- Vivaldi's own font rendering.
- Vivaldi's own smooth scrolling.
Why?, What's wrong with the actual?
- Vertical list tab cycler. I want one that looks and functions exactly like O12's did. I want my custom shortcuts that cycles through tabs to trigger the tab cycler, and if it's vertical, it'll be an easy list to navigate. It just makes sense.
Yep… me too... but, quick command list in vertical the open tabs (maybe a little thumb help)
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Incredible I'd say. I remember it's state roughly 1.5 years ago when I started to use it and the progress is remarkable. It's a fully usable browser and IMHO beats any browser by a wide margin. I have wishes but were it to freeze development today I would not hunt for another browser.
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- Tab animations for when you open a new tab, and maybe even when you close a new tab. Other browsers like Opera already have this. Vivaldi just opens a new tab with no animation. Having tab animations would help make Vivaldi a more complete, polished product.
- Vivaldi is based on Chromium, so it uses DirectWrite. It's not as good as Firefox's font rendering, or Opera Presto's font rendering. Vivaldi is also built on web technologies, so it can basically make it's own code for their browser, and hopefully remove and replace any Chromium code they're not using for their own.
- Vivaldi uses Chromium's smooth scrolling, which isn't bad, but it would be nice to have smooth scrolling on the level of Edge/Safari.
- Quick Commands isn't really like O12's vertical tab list cycler, and I don't think it's trying to be. There is a horizontal tab preview cycler in Vivaldi right now, but I find it's inferior to O12's vertical list tab cycler. You can't even use your own keyboard shortcuts for the tab cycler, it's just a bunch of tab thumbnails. Having a vertical list tab cycler like O12, where you use your own tab cycling shortcuts and it previews the vertical list of tabs would be very useful. It would make even more sense in Vivaldi, where you have hibernated tabs in between active ones, and you want to navigate left and right through your tabs in tab order without activating tabs in between. Now THAT would be an interesting and useful feature!
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I don't think you understand.
It's not like they stop developing email (or any other feature) for something else. Different things get worked on at the same time. Some tasks are easier to accomplish than others. Features get released as they become stable.
If they dropped everything until they got mail (or sync) working then there wouldn't be a browser.
It's not necessarily about priorities. It's about how long it takes to get something done right.
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I remember when I first tried it out around August/September of last year. I was pretty blown away. I knew this was a great product if it made me feel that way, and not that many products do that to you. Some are just wishy-washy products, and some don't know what they want, but with Vivaldi, it's clear, and they really care.
It's definitely much better than it was a year ago, though I'm gonna love it even more when CPU/RAM usage goes down to be on par or better than other browsers.
I can't wait to see it in a year. I can't wait to see how it becomes even better with resource usage, and becomes more stable, solid, polished, and light as a browser. Okay, maybe a little longer than a year for all that, but that will be a good point.
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I remember earlier this year, we were told sync and mail is coming out at Q4 of this year. Anyone else remember? I'm not expecting mail to come out then, and I'm not waiting for it so much, but I'm looking forward to sync. We're now entering Q4 of this year. Anyone think we'll see sync come out this year?
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you know i thought they were overdoing customization.. in some ways they are, as option pages keep growing. take the mood themes for instance. one may say "wth is that about" but then i found a practical use: you can use it to tell you youve been online too long and need to stand up and do something else. meaning if you get absorbed by work and lose track of time, you will be reminded of the time by the browser. its some uhh unusual practical utility for mere eyecandy (yeah theres the computer clock, but who looks at it while browsing? heh)
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profiles are possible, just like in chromium. Use –user-data-dir=/path/to/profile on the commandline.
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I don't think you understand.
It's not like they stop developing email (or any other feature) for something else. Different things get worked on at the same time. Some tasks are easier to accomplish than others. Features get released as they become stable.
If they dropped everything until they got mail (or sync) working then there wouldn't be a browser.
It's not necessarily about priorities. It's about how long it takes to get something done right.
It seems people here don't like critiques, as you are the second person who twists what I say. I get you guys are happy with it, I have no problem with that.
But seriously, there's a fanboy squad here, some people saying "yes, there are more important things than email". Right, for you maybe..Anyway, coming to your reply.
I never said they should have dropped everything. Or have you read something like that in my post?
Again, they made it clear what their intentions were initially, then they decided to change route without stating what were their new intentions, and actually keeping the situation in the blind for a while until people started complaining then they changed web page, removed the icon from the panel and blah, blah, but this doesn't matter because people is happy with the themes. Again, I'm FINE WITH THAT (needed all caps, otherwise someone else will reply saying that I said something different).Now, the different things worked at the time back in the days also meant, making the browser stable. Is it not now? I'm seriously asking because last time I checked was working fine for me (except for the extensions, which were working randomly or with issues now and then).
As a side note, I'm glad to see Vivaldi marketing did a good job gathering the trust of the people here.
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I don't think Vivaldi marketing did anything to win hearts and minds. It helps drive download numbers. That's about it. I rather think it is the product itself which has generated the loyalty you detect. People have been so disillusioned with browsers that some seem really happy to finally have someone trying to consider customer feedback and act on it.
Further, even with course changes, Some of the Vivaldi brass thought, for instance, that working email was always just around the corner. They've learned that's not the case, so they're no longer saying it's just around the corner.
From the perspective of a tester and a forum mod, the pile of things which people complain about NOT working would sink a cargo ship. Further, the continual updates from the Chromium Project, with which the developers have to keep pace, break new and unexpected things with each and every build. So I can see people behind the scenes dealing with a deluge of new breaks and outstanding feature demands. No fewer than six of us spent probably most of a day digging around to figure out what was going on with the WidevineCDM breakage, for example.
"Stable" is a relative term. The browser meets my routine needs and has for over a year and a half, so for me it could be considered "stable." Others complain bitterly that we can't drag tabs to new windows (working internally, but not ready for release), can't sync between instances of Vivaldi or other browsers, can't dock developer tools to the bottom of the page, have no built-in email, can't watch this or that video that was working FINE in the last version, suffered a crash when they denied location tracking permission, suffered a crash when they accidentally dragged a page element, are tortured by horrible fonts that used to be fine, can't re-size tiled tabs, can't re-size Speed Dials or give them custom thumbs, can't manipulate a tab stack, have no context menu for sub-items on the bookmark toolbar, can't reposition extension icons, can't import bookmarks from firefox, tho it was working fine last week, can't import from Edge, tho it was working fine last week, etc., etc., etc.
Therefore development is very much a "three steps forward, two steps back" proposition, and yet Opera just last week released a stable on Chromium 52, and we just released a stable on the more-secure Chromium 53.
So it will never be the case that all, or perhaps even a majority, of users will see Vivaldi as "complete" or "stable." Everyone wants something different. But trying to take as many of these differences into account as possible, Vivaldi is piecing together a usership composed of not a monolithic lowest-common-denominator, but rather a bunch of tiny microgroups of very picky nerds, plus a larger sub-group of vanilla users. Because of this last dynamic, everyone will probably always have SOMETHING to complain about - and that's unavoidable.
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So does Vivaldi.
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I've seen no sign that will be the case. It continues to be a work in progress, but isn't even being tested internally yet. I'd love to be surprised on this front.