Snapshot 1.0.418.3 - Focusing on individual requirements, not statistics
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I want to address an issue about words typed in address field. I don't know if this is by design or not. When we type a word and press enter in the address field, Vivialdi immediately searches that word in the search engine we have configured.
But in my case I have intranet servers whose URL is just a word (without dots) and if I have to access then always have to prepend protocol in the address.For example. I want to access a server with address "http://myserver/", I type "myserver" in address field, Vivialdi searches "myserver" in Bing. That's annoying. To solve this I always have to type "http://myserver" to force a lookup to a DNS instead a Bing search.
This is true for extended URLs too. For example. I type "myserver/myawsomepage", I get a Bing search on "myserver" and "myawsomepage" words.I'd like Vivaldi try to determine if a word is written in the address field is a valid server name access it, if not, to launch a search on the search engine configured.
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That's not intentional, and it is at the same time. Let me explain :
The way Vivaldi is built, it's not really from the ground up, but from Chromium. It means that they have to replace each and every feature of Chromium by their own. Of course, it's a monumental work to do all, so they prioritized. First the browser UI, the bookmarks…
But there are still some part that are raw Chromium : the site badge (site info), the history, and so on. You can test in Chromium, it's exactly the same dialogs.
They will replace them, one by one, eventually. But having the Chromium features raw in the mean time allow to have a full (somewhat) functionning browser.
So, having those bug is known, and somewhat accepted until the full feature is replaced -
The two finger to zoom is completely independent of other zoom settings. Whether this is better or worse I am not quite sure. Some people prefer it like this and others perhaps not.
You are right. But, I guess important questions are 1) what other apps do and 2) whether the mouse has the same functionality.
For example of (1), on Preview, pinching is equivalent to changing the zoom level by other means: pinching is not a separate functionality but is just one of the several means of changing the zoom level. Perhaps Vivaldi would be better off if it behaves similarly to other common apps?
As for (2), can this separate "pinching zoom" be controlled with other means than pinching? If this separate zoom level is useful enough, why not make it available more widely (on the mouse, from a menu, on a separate slider, etc.)?
I don't have a firm conclusion, but these points seem to point to: it's perhaps better if the pinching is just one of the several means of controlling the main zoom level.
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I do hope they replace them eventually, since they are actually very bad in Chrome.
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Also do consider the mouse drag and drop functionality for search and url in new tab, for 1.0. I have been requesting this feature since ages. And still waiting for it to be implemented.
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Ah, good to know that they will fully replace every Chromium site, menu, feature, list, etc. etc. and really make Vivaldi their own!
I also hope they will eventually contribute to improving the Chromium code once they've expanded to enough people on the team, but I don't expect this to happen for at least another year.
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One feature I'd like to see right now is a second row of tabs for easier management.
I usually open many tabs with images consecutively (say, content from people I follow on deviantArt), and after I'm done seeing the images, I just go closing all the dA tabs. But I also leave some tabs that I am always using (e-mail, Vivaldi Blog, Japanese Dictionary, etc.) and some others from my previous session that I still don't want to close. If I could let those tabs I know I will close separated from the ones I want open all the time (pinned tabs is kinda of an improvement on that, but I don't want to pin all the tabs I don't want to close, especially because I will close them later on and I still want to see their titles).
A second row of tabs would also allow for more tabs open without minimizing their size, if you don't want to stack them together.
I also want to see improvements to groups of tabs. A tab within a group of stacked tabs should generate a new tab within the same group!
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Oh, you sounded like a dev.
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I'm asking for something simpler, like instead of a constant sync, just being able to make a snapshot-at-the-time-and-auto-upload type of backup.
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Homepage option is "out of order".
Nothing appears.
Can't access settings nor type in an address in url box. -
It's a real pleasure to read that Vivaldi team does not consider us as average users. So please re-introduce some simple Opera 12.x features:
1)all keyboard shortcuts (like "ctrl+click" for saving images);
2)diplay of remaining time when downloading a file;
3)download tab (like in Opera 12.x) or a "download statusbar" like come Firefox addons (yes, I don't like download in sidebar).
thanks!
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Jup, that would be a nice addition to the RMB-context menu
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Please don't get me wrong on this, the choice which browser you prefer and/or use is completely yours and I won't talk you out of it - but the point I really don't get is the following:
If you like FF that much that you want Viv to be exactly like it (so a one on one copy) why don't you use FF in the first place?
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Not the perfect solution but you can send a tab to another window:
-> RMB on tab-stack
-> "Move To"
-> "New Window"You even can send the excluded tab back to the window he origins from …. but unfortunately he will re-integrate back into the stack - soo this is not only not a good solution it is even a bad workaround - sorry :lol:
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I wholeheartedly agree!
Ruarí, thank you so much for that wonderful statement. Those are very reassuring words, and it helps to hear you or other Vivaldi officials say them from time to time, just to be sure that Vivaldi's aim and mission are still to create a unique browser for the unique individuals that we all are.
So, thanks again for reminding us of your intentions and also for your dedication to us, Vivaldi users.
A great browser can be both powerful and user friendly. These qualities needn't be mutually exclusive, and, thus far, Vivaldi is living proof and a shining example of this.
Oh, and thanks also for that great list of fixes and improvements. On to Final!
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Just add one feature for developer tools: Dock panel
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Unfixed bugs (I have reported here) until current version:
Vivaldi often crashes when I drag words of web page.
IME doesn't activate imemdiately when I leave from and focus again to a text box that IME activated.
In-page search box cannot close after I backward to Speed dial.
History and site preferences page will not reload after I submit changes.
Right down -> left click -> right up causes pop context menu up on speeddial.
Restart of download causes to reset current download settings (folder and filename).
Taskbar icon sometimes become to no response.Wishes:
Reorder tiled tab.
Specify download directory as site preferences.
Ctrl+click to save an image.
Pinned tab with full width.
Skin. More better if Opera 12's skins will be rescued.
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In my opinium the stack of tabs is very hard to click. There is just a 3 px high border at the top of the stack. This could be better tangible.
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I agree with you on the opening a new tab within a tab stack to stay in that tab stack, or at least opening links should open a new tab within the stack.
I'm not much of a 2nd tab row user, but I know a lot of users have been asking for it. A lot of people have also been asking for scrollable tab bar when they get too many tabs. I'll have to wait and see which of the 2 I would find useful, because I don't suffer too much from too many tabs, and I use tab stacks for everything related, so I make the most of it.
Probably the biggest thing I want in Vivaldi at the moment(which sometimes changes) is the tab cycling. I want it to mimic O12 as much as possible. O12 has a vertical tab list with thumbnails and customizable keyboard shortcuts, and I can turn on right-click scrolling to cycle through tabs and have the mouse hover over tab scrolling disabled, because that's annoying. It makes for great navigation. It would make even more sense in Vivaldi because they've added hibernating tabs, and it would make it so easy to navigate through your tabs without activating a hibernated tab.
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That's why I prefer Vivaldi over any other browser. Anyway, I must admit that it's still a little odd for me to read such a statement from Ruarí Ødegaard. I still remember his time at Opera ASA, after their switch to Blink as someone who tried to talk down individuell opinions and feedback with those famous and anonymous user statsitics. It was more like "yes we have a comment section, but no matter what opinion you might have, we don't mind since you are the meaningless minority". Of course I know that this was the opinion of the company he was working for and the fact that he works for Vivaldi now shows that he deserves a second chance