Snapshot 1.0.321.3 - Tab closing improvements and extension fixes
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@Cqoicebordel (Your comment wouldn't let me reply to it directly, so I'm typing it here)
Thanks for your insight and knowledge!
Lets hope they do change and skip Chromium versions before the stable and come out with Mail and/or Sync soon!
And do you think once stable is finally released then they're going to expand the team and develop 3 streams like Chrome and Opera?
I figure that by the time they're ready to go with 3 streams that they'll be monetized and will be able to hire more developers. But that should happen by the time they've released the stable release.
What's your insight(and you too Ayespy) on the monetizing plans and date for Vivaldi?
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Was posting all that really necessary?
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Viv x64, Win 7, when I have focus in the URL bar and hit tab to focus the search box, the cursor momentarily flickers there then disappears and it does not have focus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Yup. Does it here in V32, on Win10 X64.
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You have to take my comments as (somewhat) educated guesses. Don't put the stock of gospel in them. As Cqoicebordel stated below, multiple streams means multiple teams. There is a browser being built right now (Otter) that has a team of basically two or three guys working in their spare time. Their development model is completely linear, just one stream, and it's quite slow. They've been at it for almost 3 years now, have put out 96 "Experimental" packages including 7 "Beta's" and have no stable version in sight.
With only about 15 developers (if the team website is up to date) even two actual streams under development strikes me as a challenge - BUT, once there is a Stable, it no longer needs to be developed, so another "stream" can be added with relatively minor logistical impact. The developers have to have something to do, so there would be a Stable in common use, and then the next version being developed at the same time. It's that third stream (two actually being actively developed) that presents the biggest challenge.
In the interview I cited, Jon mentioned that every time a new engine is introduced, it "breaks everything" and can take weeks to get back to reliable operation. This could be an incentive to skip a Chromium build along the way. I don't know.
Jon stated in that same article that I mentioned that they are monetizing at present via contracts with a couple of search providers. It's hard to guess what sort of revenue that is producing, and how many personnel he can afford. He has said that this revenue model, plus some paid default bookmarks, etc, is how he plans to generate income for the browser. The bigger profile the browser gets, the more attractive these partnerships will be to content providers, and so the better deals he can strike. He is literally touring and doing interviews with tech publications right now, just to promote the Beta. When the Stable arrives I imagine he and his sales guy(s) will pull out all the stops to maximize the browser's profile. That should open up some new revenue opportunities.
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It will be killer for sure.
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Heh. I never used the old mail client (still using Outlook Express on an old XP machine) but when the new Viv one arrives I may give it a spin. Once it's stable
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Wow, this is a rare instance of the superiority of Ctrl+h to Backspace Since day 1 of my Unix experience (ca 1988), I've been using Ctrl+h to delete the character before the text cursor. It's so strongly ingrained into my muscle memory that I cannot not hit it unconsciously. That gave me a lot of grievances on Google Chrome and Opera on Linux because of this unintended history navigation because Ctrl+h invoked history navigation even in the text box. I use past tense here because I've switched to Mac OS X for several years. Now, on Vivaldi on Mac, backspace does invoke history navigation, but Ctrl+h doesn't!
So, folks, switch to Ctrl+h to delete character. (But, then you would have to customize your Emacs key binding, etc.)
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Yeah. Pretty sure the reason we don't have it yet is it's not quite stable, some features have yet to be refined/added, and the UI needs work. I don't think we will be allowed to SEE it until it is for all intents and purposes, stable. Jon said in an interview he uses it daily, but it's got too many rough edges for release. When it's good enough for him, I have a sneaking feeling it will be good enough for me.
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Regression: When you enter more than one word in the address bar, address bar dropdown doesn't show up.
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Xmarks working?!
Legen….wait for it....dary.
Thank you very much.
VB-9694 can be closed. -
Re: VB-10040 Scaled Speed Dials features half pixels
Is it possible to scale the Speed Dial? -
err, is there still option to make close button at the right side of a tab instead of the left side?
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As Cqoicebordel stated below, multiple streams means multiple teams.
I must say, that usually whenever having multiple streams you don't actually dedicate different teams to the streams. The most common case of having multiple streams - the one that both Opera and Chrome(ium) use doesn't require separate teams for each stream. Simply whenever bugs are fixed, the fixes get pulled from the development repo to the beta / stable repos if the bugs exist in those versions too. Sure, you may have to have a few QA guys making sure the beta / stable builds are stable and don't crash every second, but it really doesn't require separate teams. Unless you want to do something like update the beta stream once in 3 months, while still wanting to support it with bugfixes, which would imho be crazy.
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Confirmed, OS X 10.10.2
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It may not REQUIRE it, but in practice, just the division of labor between breakfixing what the new engine code broke; designing and building new features; and bugfixing; teams will organically develop. When your team is too small, it tends to be all hands on deck for each of these tasks, and then really only one function can be seen to at a time. When it's big enough, they can all be done simultaneously. When they are, you have teams. They may overlap, but you have teams.
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Why just don't make Close Tab context menu working on a group of selected tabs? Maybe spell it Close Tabs when more than one tab is selected.
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Don't use escape in input fields to, that will change focus back to the document. (I would like to disable escape)
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Wooohoooo - finally the x64 Windows installer asks for elevated rights!
That fix was a long time coming… Finally the automatic update can be used.
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Extensions "Translator (by sailormax)" and "awesome screenshot" still don't work.
Translator cannot get the selected text so the screenshot ext. (screen)